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Feb 4, 2022 07:48:35   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
"If you thought Republicans were done trying to make it harder to vote, you were wrong"

"It is 2022, and Republicans are stuck in a time warp — still hung up on the 2020 presidential vote.

Regarding one point about that election, no one should forget. For the first time in modern U.S. history, a major presidential candidate refused to accept a valid decision by the American people. New revelations about defeated incumbent Donald Trump’s determination to overturn the vote in his presidency’s waning days continue to surface. They include his interest, thankfully never acted on, in ordering federal agents to seize voting machines. The House Jan. 6 committee continues its work to document how Mr. Trump’s lies instigated an attack on the Capitol.

Mr. Trump continues to lie about his loss and demand that other Republicans do the same, just this week declaring that Congress should investigate former vice president Mike Pence for refusing to overturn the 2020 vote. Many are acceding to him and to a GOP base that polls would indicate has bought into his alternate version of reality. Whipped up against supposedly rampant election fraud that does not exist, Republican state lawmakers are continuing their anti-democratic efforts to crimp access to the ballot box, as new legislative sessions get underway across the country

Arizona Republicans last year cracked down on absentee voting and ran a shambolic partisan “audit” of Joe Biden’s narrow 2020 win there — which found the count to be sound. They have nevertheless proposed a raft of new voting bills. One would ban automatic voter registration. Another would eviscerate mail-in voting and empower the legislature to reject primary and general election results. Under the proposal, if state lawmakers chose to reject the count, they could force a new election.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) last year blocked GOP voting bills, so Republicans are attempting to use an unusual provision in the state constitution that would permit the legislature to impose restrictions over Ms. Whitmer’s opposition. They would create strict new voter ID requirements, call for an Arizona-like “forensic audit” of the 2020 vote and bar voting officials from proactively distributing absentee ballot applications.

In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) wants to create an election police force under his control to hunt down voting crimes — the likely result of which would be to intimidate people doing legitimate election work. Georgia Republicans, who last year passed a wide-ranging voting restriction bill, have proposed forbidding ballot drop boxes. In Pennsylvania, GOP lawmakers have called for banning no-excuse absentee voting, which many have used during the pandemic.

Even in Virginia, where the GOP won substantial victories last November under the state’s current rules, Republicans want a crackdown, filing bills to ban drop boxes, reimpose voter ID requirements, cut the early voting window, eliminate the permanent absentee list and repeal same-day registration.

Not every one of these bills will become law, particularly in states, such as Virginia, in which Democrats maintain some power. But their existence shows Republicans’ anti-democratic drift. It also exposes their lack of faith in their ability to win by appealing to a diverse and growing electorate with their candidates and their policies. Mr. Trump might be an instigator, but many more in the party are accomplices in his campaign to undermine U.S. democracy for partisan gain."


The Washington Post

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Feb 4, 2022 08:20:37   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"If you thought Republicans were done trying to make it harder to vote, you were wrong"

"It is 2022, and Republicans are stuck in a time warp — still hung up on the 2020 presidential vote.

Regarding one point about that election, no one should forget. For the first time in modern U.S. history, a major presidential candidate refused to accept a valid decision by the American people. New revelations about defeated incumbent Donald Trump’s determination to overturn the vote in his presidency’s waning days continue to surface. They include his interest, thankfully never acted on, in ordering federal agents to seize voting machines. The House Jan. 6 committee continues its work to document how Mr. Trump’s lies instigated an attack on the Capitol.

Mr. Trump continues to lie about his loss and demand that other Republicans do the same, just this week declaring that Congress should investigate former vice president Mike Pence for refusing to overturn the 2020 vote. Many are acceding to him and to a GOP base that polls would indicate has bought into his alternate version of reality. Whipped up against supposedly rampant election fraud that does not exist, Republican state lawmakers are continuing their anti-democratic efforts to crimp access to the ballot box, as new legislative sessions get underway across the country

Arizona Republicans last year cracked down on absentee voting and ran a shambolic partisan “audit” of Joe Biden’s narrow 2020 win there — which found the count to be sound. They have nevertheless proposed a raft of new voting bills. One would ban automatic voter registration. Another would eviscerate mail-in voting and empower the legislature to reject primary and general election results. Under the proposal, if state lawmakers chose to reject the count, they could force a new election.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) last year blocked GOP voting bills, so Republicans are attempting to use an unusual provision in the state constitution that would permit the legislature to impose restrictions over Ms. Whitmer’s opposition. They would create strict new voter ID requirements, call for an Arizona-like “forensic audit” of the 2020 vote and bar voting officials from proactively distributing absentee ballot applications.

In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) wants to create an election police force under his control to hunt down voting crimes — the likely result of which would be to intimidate people doing legitimate election work. Georgia Republicans, who last year passed a wide-ranging voting restriction bill, have proposed forbidding ballot drop boxes. In Pennsylvania, GOP lawmakers have called for banning no-excuse absentee voting, which many have used during the pandemic.

Even in Virginia, where the GOP won substantial victories last November under the state’s current rules, Republicans want a crackdown, filing bills to ban drop boxes, reimpose voter ID requirements, cut the early voting window, eliminate the permanent absentee list and repeal same-day registration.

Not every one of these bills will become law, particularly in states, such as Virginia, in which Democrats maintain some power. But their existence shows Republicans’ anti-democratic drift. It also exposes their lack of faith in their ability to win by appealing to a diverse and growing electorate with their candidates and their policies. Mr. Trump might be an instigator, but many more in the party are accomplices in his campaign to undermine U.S. democracy for partisan gain."


The Washington Post
"If you thought Republicans were done trying ... (show quote)


Bezos' BS!

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Feb 4, 2022 08:28:12   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"If you thought Republicans were done trying to make it harder to vote, you were wrong"

"It is 2022, and Republicans are stuck in a time warp — still hung up on the 2020 presidential vote.

Regarding one point about that election, no one should forget. For the first time in modern U.S. history, a major presidential candidate refused to accept a valid decision by the American people. New revelations about defeated incumbent Donald Trump’s determination to overturn the vote in his presidency’s waning days continue to surface. They include his interest, thankfully never acted on, in ordering federal agents to seize voting machines. The House Jan. 6 committee continues its work to document how Mr. Trump’s lies instigated an attack on the Capitol.

Mr. Trump continues to lie about his loss and demand that other Republicans do the same, just this week declaring that Congress should investigate former vice president Mike Pence for refusing to overturn the 2020 vote. Many are acceding to him and to a GOP base that polls would indicate has bought into his alternate version of reality. Whipped up against supposedly rampant election fraud that does not exist, Republican state lawmakers are continuing their anti-democratic efforts to crimp access to the ballot box, as new legislative sessions get underway across the country

Arizona Republicans last year cracked down on absentee voting and ran a shambolic partisan “audit” of Joe Biden’s narrow 2020 win there — which found the count to be sound. They have nevertheless proposed a raft of new voting bills. One would ban automatic voter registration. Another would eviscerate mail-in voting and empower the legislature to reject primary and general election results. Under the proposal, if state lawmakers chose to reject the count, they could force a new election.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) last year blocked GOP voting bills, so Republicans are attempting to use an unusual provision in the state constitution that would permit the legislature to impose restrictions over Ms. Whitmer’s opposition. They would create strict new voter ID requirements, call for an Arizona-like “forensic audit” of the 2020 vote and bar voting officials from proactively distributing absentee ballot applications.

In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) wants to create an election police force under his control to hunt down voting crimes — the likely result of which would be to intimidate people doing legitimate election work. Georgia Republicans, who last year passed a wide-ranging voting restriction bill, have proposed forbidding ballot drop boxes. In Pennsylvania, GOP lawmakers have called for banning no-excuse absentee voting, which many have used during the pandemic.

Even in Virginia, where the GOP won substantial victories last November under the state’s current rules, Republicans want a crackdown, filing bills to ban drop boxes, reimpose voter ID requirements, cut the early voting window, eliminate the permanent absentee list and repeal same-day registration.

Not every one of these bills will become law, particularly in states, such as Virginia, in which Democrats maintain some power. But their existence shows Republicans’ anti-democratic drift. It also exposes their lack of faith in their ability to win by appealing to a diverse and growing electorate with their candidates and their policies. Mr. Trump might be an instigator, but many more in the party are accomplices in his campaign to undermine U.S. democracy for partisan gain."


The Washington Post
"If you thought Republicans were done trying ... (show quote)


The Washington Compost again.

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Feb 4, 2022 08:59:26   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Delaware requires voter ID. Whose home state is that?

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Feb 4, 2022 09:00:18   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Lol, facts are a B****!

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Feb 4, 2022 09:04:00   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
David Martin wrote:
Delaware requires voter ID. Whose home state is that?


Delaware is RACIST!

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Feb 4, 2022 10:07:03   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
I find it rather easy to vote.

I have to show ID and they compare my signature on the spot... so sad that some have such a low opinion of others of certain ethnic backgrounds, that they believe this is too difficult a process that they can't possibly participate... believing that an ethnic background or race is inferior and lacks intelligence or ability, is racist by its very nature.

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Feb 4, 2022 10:30:22   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
RichieC wrote:
I find it rather easy to vote.

I have to show ID and they compare my signature on the spot... so sad that some have such a low opinion of others of certain ethnic backgrounds, that they believe this is too difficult a process that they can't possibly participate... believing that an ethnic background or race is inferior and lacks intelligence or ability, is racist by its very nature.


That is exactly the behavior that the Republicans are so engaged, to make it less convenient—harder to get the polls, smaller windows, or whatever means to vote. This is an attack on democracy-the less fortunate find it harder to vote, and this tactic gives the Republicans an edge, historically. Whatever ever the race, but let’s be honest, in that respect, shall we?

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Feb 4, 2022 11:04:36   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
behavior that the Republicans are so engaged, to make it less convenient—harder to get the polls, smaller windows, or whatever means to vote. This is an attack on democracy-the less fortunate find it harder to vote, and this tactic gives the Republicans an edge, historically. Whatever ever the race, but let’s be honest, in that respect, shall we?

Sure, let's be honest.
For starters, would you mind citing specific examples of what Republicans have done and in which states?
Thanks in advance.

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Feb 4, 2022 11:08:26   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
David Martin wrote:
Sure, let's be honest.
For starters, would you mind citing specific examples of what Republicans have done and in which states?
Thanks in advance.


Read the article that opened this thread.
Good Lord, what is wrong with you?

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Feb 4, 2022 11:23:04   #
Triple G
 
David Martin wrote:
Sure, let's be honest.
For starters, would you mind citing specific examples of what Republicans have done and in which states?
Thanks in advance.


Are you too lazy to read? Many websites have heen provided where there's a listing each state's changing laws and their impact in voting.

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Feb 4, 2022 11:23:04   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Read the article that opened this thread.
Good Lord, what is wrong with you?

I read it. The article is full of vague claims, a lot of "might," "want to", "tried to", "could" and other nonsense.
I asked for specific law changes actually enacted by Republicans and in which states.
I won't blame you, nor post an ad hominem slur, if you can't or won't.

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Feb 4, 2022 11:24:52   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Triple G wrote:
Are you too lazy to read? Many websites have heen provided where there's a listing each state's changing laws and their impact in voting.

I read a lot. I also think that someone making a claim might post actual proof rather than someone else's op-ed that includes zero actual references or citations.
If there are so many such websites, kindly provide a link, or you can't provide the actual specific law changes yourself.
If it's too much to ask for, I will understand why.

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Feb 4, 2022 11:30:15   #
Triple G
 
David Martin wrote:
I read a lot. I also think that someone making a claim might post actual proof rather than someone else's op-ed that includes zero actual references or citations.
If there are so many such websites, kindly provide a link, or you can't provide the actual specific law changes yourself.
If it's too much to ask for, I will understand why.


It's been done and short of being a bullet pointed list by state, its unacceptable to you.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-october-2021

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-states-where-efforts-to-restrict-voting-are-escalating/amp/

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-voter-suppression-in-2020/

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Feb 4, 2022 11:30:16   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
David Martin wrote:
I read a lot. I also think that someone making a claim might post actual proof rather than someone else's op-ed that includes zero actual references or citations.
If there are so many such websites, kindly provide a link, or you can't provide the actual specific law changes yourself.
If it's too much to ask for, I will understand why.


You are in denial if you have read, and still refuse to acknowledge the very concerted attempts by the Republicans to restrict voting opportunities in coming elections.
By what you have said, you probably still believe Trump when he says the election was stolen from him, despite ALL the evidence to the contrary, and his personal history of mendacity and crap.
Stick with it, nothing anybody can show you or present to you that would make you honest.

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