LDB415
Loc: Houston south suburb
Pretty much sums up the differences between right and wrong (left).
“One way of life is based upon the will of the majority, and is distinguished by free institutions, representative
government, free elections, guarantees of individual liberty, freedom of speech and religion, and freedom from
political oppression. The second way of life is based upon the will of a minority forcibly imposed upon the
majority. It relies upon terror and oppression, a controlled press and radio, fixed elections, and the suppression
of personal freedoms.”
LDB415 wrote:
Pretty much sums up the differences between right and wrong (left).
“One way of life is based upon the will of the majority, and is distinguished by free institutions, representative
government, free elections, guarantees of individual liberty, freedom of speech and religion, and freedom from
political oppression. The second way of life is based upon the will of a minority forcibly imposed upon the
majority. It relies upon terror and oppression, a controlled press and radio, fixed elections, and the suppression
of personal freedoms.”
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Interesting quote, but easily misunderstood when taken out of context. He was talking about foreign policy and not internal U.S. politics, electoral college, etc.
Here is the quote in context:
"At the present moment in world history nearly every nation must choose between alternative ways of life. The choice is too often not a free one. One way of life is based upon the will of the majority, and is distinguished by free institutions, representative government, free elections, guarantees of individual liberty, freedom of speech and religion, and freedom from political oppression. The second way of life is based upon the will of a minority forcibly imposed upon the majority. It relies upon terror and oppression, a controlled press and radio; fixed elections, and the suppression of personal freedoms.
I believe that it must be the policy of the United States to support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by outside pressures."
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
David Martin wrote:
Interesting quote, but easily misunderstood when taken out of context. He was talking about foreign policy and not internal U.S. politics, electoral college, etc.
Here is the quote in context:
"At the present moment in world history nearly every nation must choose between alternative ways of life. The choice is too often not a free one. One way of life is based upon the will of the majority, and is distinguished by free institutions, representative government, free elections, guarantees of individual liberty, freedom of speech and religion, and freedom from political oppression. The second way of life is based upon the will of a minority forcibly imposed upon the majority. It relies upon terror and oppression, a controlled press and radio; fixed elections, and the suppression of personal freedoms.
I believe that it must be the policy of the United States to support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by outside pressures."
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So you don't believe that his words could also be applied to internal US matters? It is not difficult to say that the minority forcibly imposing their way on the majority is exactly what The Big Lie is all about. Millions more people voted for Biden than for Trump, yet he wanted -- and still wants -- to claim that he won, and he wanted the election result overturned in his favour. I see Truman's words as VERY applicable. I dare say that he never imagined that this sort of thing would ever happen in the US, but now that it has I think I hear him saying these words from the grave... in relation to internal events, not foreign policy.
Hmmmmm. And this is the same President who attempted to extend the disastrous FDR "New Deal", through his version, "The Fair Deal".
JohnFrim wrote:
So you don't believe that his words could also be applied to internal US matters? It is not difficult to say that the minority forcibly imposing their way on the majority is exactly what The Big Lie is all about. Millions more people voted for Biden than for Trump, yet he wanted -- and still wants -- to claim that he won, and he wanted the election result overturned in his favour. I see Truman's words as VERY applicable. I dare say that he never imagined that this sort of thing would ever happen in the US, but now that it has I think I hear him saying these words from the grave... in relation to internal events, not foreign policy.
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Well, Truman won the presidency with less than a majority of votes but an overwhelming majority of the electoral college.
I find it disingenuous to take his words out of context - comments that explained his view on external threats to a nation - and assume that he would say the same thing aabout the lawful internal workings of a country's election process. Unless you can find a quote where he did express such a view.
LDB415
Loc: Houston south suburb
People often say something that applies equally well to more than one situation or circumstance, as in this case.
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
LDB415 wrote:
Pretty much sums up the differences between right and wrong (left).
“One way of life is based upon the will of the majority, and is distinguished by free institutions, representative
government, free elections, guarantees of individual liberty, freedom of speech and religion, and freedom from
political oppression. The second way of life is based upon the will of a minority forcibly imposed upon the
majority. It relies upon terror and oppression, a controlled press and radio, fixed elections, and the suppression
of personal freedoms.”
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The framers of our constitution called it "the tyranny of the majority", And that's why they gave us a republic. They were not afraid of a minority, but of an "out of control" majority
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
boberic wrote:
The framers of our constitution called it "the tyranny of the majority", And that's why they gave us a republic. They were not afraid of a minority, but of an "out of control" majority
So what should be done about the 2020 election results?
Biden won the popular vote, AND he won the EC. Do you really think Trump should have been given his 2nd term with that election result?
LDB415
Loc: Houston south suburb
Who knows what anyone won. Without proper legitimate ID when voting nobody knows anything.
LDB415 wrote:
People often say something that applies equally well to more than one situation or circumstance, as in this case.
You don't have the authority to attribute someone's opinion on an issue, and decide that applies to a different issue. Had Truman felt strongly about, say the electoral college, he would have said something about it. Find us that quote.
JohnFrim wrote:
So you don't believe that his words could also be applied to internal US matters? It is not difficult to say that the minority forcibly imposing their way on the majority is exactly what The Big Lie is all about. Millions more people voted for Biden than for Trump, yet he wanted -- and still wants -- to claim that he won, and he wanted the election result overturned in his favour. I see Truman's words as VERY applicable. I dare say that he never imagined that this sort of thing would ever happen in the US, but now that it has I think I hear him saying these words from the grave... in relation to internal events, not foreign policy.
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You are speaking of ONE incident, not a way of life. How like you on the lying corrupt Left to blow everything out of proportion to continue on with your anti American agenda.
Dennis
JohnFrim wrote:
So what should be done about the 2020 election results?
Biden won the popular vote, AND he won the EC. Do you really think Trump should have been given his 2nd term with that election result?
Why do you bring up that BS. It is all decided now and Biden is the President. Why does the Left continue bringing up bullshit when it is not relevant anymore? You haven't been taking your TDS meds again have you?
Dennis
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
David Martin wrote:
You don't have the authority to attribute someone's opinion on an issue, and decide that applies to a different issue. Had Truman felt strongly about, say the electoral college, he would have said something about it. Find us that quote.
So the words in Thomas Gray's poem, "Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise." have no applicability except to the poem? Hmm... stay happy!
JohnFrim wrote:
So the words in Thomas Gray's poem, "Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise." have no applicability except to the poem? Hmm... stay happy!
Well, then I can equally assert that he was perhaps speaking of your premise....
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