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Jan 21, 2022 20:32:19   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
I've been using LR v. 6 for some time. I'm used to it and find it some what easy to use. However, it is 32-bite software and my new computer will run 64-bit software. I now have both versions of LR and am wondering what the differences are. LR CC has its beneficial features, but I am fairly comfortable with the other. Can anyone tell me exactly what the differences are? By differences I am referring to the user interfaces, file management, and the differences in their individual workflows. They both allow the user to get where they want to go with the image, but they use different routes to get there. Is the CC version as easy to learn and use? I am not making serious adjustments to images, I typically print many photographs SOOC. I am wondering what the consensus here is about the two versions..

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Jan 21, 2022 21:06:35   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
Stick with using LR Classic if you are used to V6...

Here is the latest on the delta between CC and Classic.

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/21/lightroom-classic-and-cc-are-nearly-identical-so-why-two-programs/

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Jan 21, 2022 21:06:37   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You raise an interesting question, as well as causing me to discover the latest updates from our friends at Adobe.com.

First, what computer type are you using? If a 64-bit Mac, you're already out of luck for the old LR6. Given you're still running this old software, like I am, I'll guess you're on Windows.

What I just discovered is that Adobe has now disabled the LR6 download from 'my products' at Adobe.com. I can see my purchase history of LR5 and LR6 (upgrade). But now, the software is no longer available for download from these 'official' locations.

When I check my System Info from inside LR6.14, my software reports both a system and application architecture as x64 (64-bit). I also have an old backdoor to the LR6 (Win) software at Adobe that still works. Consider immediately downloading and saving this link as you decide what to do next (to use this link, you have to have an active sign-on session at Adobe.com):

Windows x64
http://prdl-download.adobe.com/Lightroom/60BA1251F1BC48B8B82B1B63AE8E620E/1552643270580/Lightroom_6_LS11.exe

Regarding LRCC, do you mean some legacy 2017 software? Or, do you mean an active LR/PS subscription? In today's Jan 2022 subscription world, the LR 'classic' software comes with the subscription, software that downloads and installs to your local harddrive, operates on your local computer and uses images located primarily on your local storage. The same applies to PhotoShop.

The subscription also gives access to LRCC software that operates on your mobile device(s) in a browser, something that you can also use in a browser on your main desktop. In the basic subscription, you also have access to 20GB of cloud storage that would let you wirelessly share images between your mobile device and your main desktop.

The browser LRCC has a lot of power, but not all the power of the classic software. Adobe seems to have created a LRCC only subscription option, but that's really for the all-mobile, I don't have a wallet, my phone is my computer Gen-Z crowd. Based on what you've said above, you're probably not the target demo / use-case for this option.

If you have a 64-bit computer that doesn't have LR6, consider testing the download provided above. Don't screw around with your active LR6 software until you've done some verifications of the software link provided.

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Jan 21, 2022 22:32:01   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You raise an interesting question, as well as causing me to discover the latest updates from our friends at Adobe.com.

First, what computer type are you using? If a 64-bit Mac, you're already out of luck for the old LR6. Given you're still running this old software, like I am, I'll guess you're on Windows.

What I just discovered is that Adobe has now disabled the LR6 download from 'my products' at Adobe.com. I can see my purchase history of LR5 and LR6 (upgrade). But now, the software is no longer available for download from these 'official' locations.

When I check my System Info from inside LR6.14, my software reports both a system and application architecture as x64 (64-bit). I also have an old backdoor to the LR6 (Win) software at Adobe that still works. Consider immediately downloading and saving this link as you decide what to do next (to use this link, you have to have an active sign-on session at Adobe.com):

Windows x64
http://prdl-download.adobe.com/Lightroom/60BA1251F1BC48B8B82B1B63AE8E620E/1552643270580/Lightroom_6_LS11.exe

Regarding LRCC, do you mean some legacy 2017 software? Or, do you mean an active LR/PS subscription? In today's Jan 2022 subscription world, the LR 'classic' software comes with the subscription, software that downloads and installs to your local harddrive, operates on your local computer and uses images located primarily on your local storage. The same applies to PhotoShop.

The subscription also gives access to LRCC software that operates on your mobile device(s) in a browser, something that you can also use in a browser on your main desktop. In the basic subscription, you also have access to 20GB of cloud storage that would let you wirelessly share images between your mobile device and your main desktop.

The browser LRCC has a lot of power, but not all the power of the classic software. Adobe seems to have created a LRCC only subscription option, but that's really for the all-mobile, I don't have a wallet, my phone is my computer Gen-Z crowd. Based on what you've said above, you're probably not the target demo / use-case for this option.

If you have a 64-bit computer that doesn't have LR6, consider testing the download provided above. Don't screw around with your active LR6 software until you've done some verifications of the software link provided.
You raise an interesting question, as well as caus... (show quote)


Thanx for your response. My old iMac is the computer I am abandoning as it is only capable of "Catalina". Nothing in the 64-bit processing will work. LR v 6 was installed there several years ago. The new iMac now has both versions as I went with the subscription lure. My present thoughts are to continue using LR as my primary application. Whichever system I chose will still me to enter all the library into the new software. This might be a blessing as I did not really know enough about LR to set it up properly for the long-haul. I now realize the value of multiple catalogues. Can an image be worked in each program?

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Jan 21, 2022 22:37:19   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
davidrb wrote:
Thanx for your response. My old iMac is the computer I am abandoning as it is only capable of "Catalina". Nothing in the 64-bit processing will work. LR v 6 was installed there several years ago. The new iMac now has both versions as I went with the subscription lure. My present thoughts are to continue using LR as my primary application. Whichever system I chose will still me to enter all the library into the new software. This might be a blessing as I did not really know enough about LR to set it up properly for the long-haul. I now realize the value of multiple catalogues. Can an image be worked in each program?
Thanx for your response. My old iMac is the compu... (show quote)


The subscription software can be installed on multiple devices. But, I guess you might have some issues trying to run 'new' Adobe on old 32-bit Mac technology? The working on the same image with different software versions involves export / import rather than trying to share a common LRCAT file across different software versions. I think you'll have issues with different LR versions even in sharing export DNGs as some sliders of the current software don't exist in the LR6.

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Jan 21, 2022 22:48:42   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
davidrb wrote:
I've been using LR v. 6 for some time. I'm used to it and find it some what easy to use. However, it is 32-bite software and my new computer will run 64-bit software. I now have both versions of LR and am wondering what the differences are. LR CC has its beneficial features, but I am fairly comfortable with the other. Can anyone tell me exactly what the differences are? By differences I am referring to the user interfaces, file management, and the differences in their individual workflows. They both allow the user to get where they want to go with the image, but they use different routes to get there. Is the CC version as easy to learn and use? I am not making serious adjustments to images, I typically print many photographs SOOC. I am wondering what the consensus here is about the two versions..
I've been using LR v. 6 for some time. I'm used t... (show quote)


There are basically two Lightrooms, one on line just called Lightroom and the other Lightroom Classic, both are $9.99 a month. The first is totally online product, which means you can edit your pictures anywhere that you have an internet connection and all your pictures are stored in the cloud. You get 1TB of storage and there is no access to Photoshop for the moment. The second option which is what most in this forum who use Lightroom have is Lightroom Classic subsriptions which include Lightroom online and on the desktop. This also has access to Photoshop. The other difference is that you only get 20GBs of storage online. You can upgrade to $19.99 a month for 1TB. LRC is far more powerful than LR Cloud and since you are already using Lightroom 6, the only learning curve is the new advancements that have been made to the software that you already have. So bottom line, I rcommend LRC for you.

There are a lot of other benefits if you decide to use the online version that comes with the LCR subscription. You can upload your pictures to the web via a catalogue in LRC to the web for viewing anywhere and you can share them as well. As long as the pictures remain on your hard drive, they do not count towards you 20GBs. You can also create a website for free. If you install the Lightroom Camera on your phone, you can set it up to down the load the pictures automatically to your computer hard drive, even if you use your native camera software. Once that is done you can delete them from online so they do not fill up your storage. Lightroom is a whole photography eco system.

You said that you only do light work in LR6. You may want to look into Photoshop Elements. I saw it on sale at B&H a day or two ago for a on time payment of $59.99. You could also do a trial run of LRC and see if you like it. If you are using the organizer, (catalogue) in LR6, taking the subscription would probably be your easiest move. The major change would be your access an expanded number of benefits by upgrading.

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Jan 22, 2022 08:51:04   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The subscription software can be installed on multiple devices. But, I guess you might have some issues trying to run 'new' Adobe on old 32-bit Mac technology? The working on the same image with different software versions involves export / import rather than trying to share a common LRCAT file across different software versions. I think you'll have issues with different LR versions even in sharing export DNGs as some sliders of the current software don't exist in the LR6.


Not the problem as my new computer is 64-bit with the new M-1 chip from Apple. This thread is answering more questions than I originally asked. For that I am very appreciative. Thanx to all, keep those cards and letters coming in!

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Jan 22, 2022 12:19:26   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
davidrb wrote:
Thanx for your response. My old iMac is the computer I am abandoning as it is only capable of "Catalina". Nothing in the 64-bit processing will work. LR v 6 was installed there several years ago. The new iMac now has both versions as I went with the subscription lure. My present thoughts are to continue using LR as my primary application. Whichever system I chose will still me to enter all the library into the new software. This might be a blessing as I did not really know enough about LR to set it up properly for the long-haul. I now realize the value of multiple catalogues. Can an image be worked in each program?
Thanx for your response. My old iMac is the compu... (show quote)


"I now realize the value of multiple catalogues."
That usually is a bad idea that leads to confusion. You remember an image and want it. Where do you look? The common exception is the wedding photographer that shoots a thousand plus and wants to keeps the Jones separate from the Smiths.

"Can an image be worked in each program?"
I does not seem to be accepted much on UHH, but Adobe delivers a system of linked parts on the $10/month plan. A photo can be "in" Lightroom CC, Lightroom Classic, Lightroom Mobile (phone), Lightroom Web, Photoshop and a private Portfolio. That photo is linked or "synced" so that an adjustment anywhere shows up everywhere.

For example.... You shoot a masterpiece on your DSLR. You are working it to perfection in Lightroom Classic and maybe Photoshop. Your granddaughter invites you to lunch and says, "What have you been doing lately Grandpa?". You whip out your phone and show her. She says it is too dark and needs some cropping. You adjust it on your phone, in the restaurant. By the time you get home to your desktop machine, the corrected image is there. It beats you home!

Or, you're with your buddies at the local pub discussing the last dirt bike adventure. Your iPad, Android tablet or laptop are in the car. The buddies need to see the pictures you've been developing on your desktop. You already put the good ones in a Classic collection. Lightroom CC "knows" that so you can whip out your "device" of choice and show them.

It works the other way too. You might be at Costco and see a DJI drone. Grab your phone, take a snapshot of the price and details of what is in the kit. When you get home, that snapshot is in Classic. You can compare the Costco package details with the Fly More Combo offered at B&H. You discover Costco is cheaper because it has two batteries instead of three! Then you can go back to Costco later in the day and get the better deal. (A friend told me that story!!!)

Lightroom 6.14 was fantastic for all that it did. The new Lightroom/Photoshop system is far ahead of it. There are new things in Classic, like masking. But the collection of the system parts go even well beyond that.

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Jan 22, 2022 12:49:06   #
BobPeterson Loc: Massachusetts
 
There are multiple benefits to the 20gb subscription plan. If you import photos into Lightroom classic then sync a collection from there to the web only "Smart Previews" are synced and don't count against the space you have in the cloud. You can still work on them from any connected computer from the mobile LR or LR on the web and your adjustments will sync back to your LR Classic library.

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Jan 22, 2022 13:17:14   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
BobPeterson wrote:
There are multiple benefits to the 20gb subscription plan. If you import photos into Lightroom classic then sync a collection from there to the web only "Smart Previews" are synced and don't count against the space you have in the cloud. You can still work on them from any connected computer from the mobile LR or LR on the web and your adjustments will sync back to your LR Classic library.



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Jan 22, 2022 13:17:40   #
KLambar Loc: New Jersey
 
I have Lightroom 6 but what I found out is if you buy a Z camera it will not allow you to import photos until they are converted(I use Adobe DNG Converter).

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Jan 22, 2022 13:20:10   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
davidrb wrote:
Thanx for your response. My old iMac is the computer I am abandoning as it is only capable of "Catalina". Nothing in the 64-bit processing will work. LR v 6 was installed there several years ago. The new iMac now has both versions as I went with the subscription lure. My present thoughts are to continue using LR as my primary application. Whichever system I chose will still me to enter all the library into the new software. This might be a blessing as I did not really know enough about LR to set it up properly for the long-haul. I now realize the value of multiple catalogues. Can an image be worked in each program?
Thanx for your response. My old iMac is the compu... (show quote)


David, did you upgrade to an APPLE SILICON M1 24" iMac, or the 27" Intel iMac?

If you're on an M1, M1 Pro, or M1 Max processor, you need the Adobe Photography Plan or the Adobe Creative Cloud subscription. While there is a Rosetta 2 emulator in the new Macs that runs Intel apps, I have no idea whether it will run Lr 6.14, or if it does, whether it will continue to be there to run Lr 6.14 as Apple abandons Intel and transitions completely to their own silicon.

If you are used to Lightroom 6.14 and want minimum change, install Lightroom CLASSIC and forget about LrCC. If you think you are going to access your files from an iPad or iPhone and edit them there, also download LrCC.

The NEW Lightroom CC is basically a hybrid of the old Lightroom 6 concept with the old Lightroom Mobile concept. The idea is to share your files via the expensive Adobe Cloud platform. It also includes some new and very cool features. But I don't use it, because I have zero need for it. Some folks swear by it. Others use both systems... Lightroom CLASSIC in the office or home, and Lightroom CC on the go, sharing only those images that they need to, to keep their Adobe Cloud usage minimal.

All major software developers are moving to a subscription software model, with the recognition that SOFTware is called that because it evolves constantly. It requires constant support. Having MOST USERS on the same version of the software makes that support much less costly and much more efficient, and better for the consumer. It also gives corporate accountants what they want, which are predictable monthly expenses for software. There's no HUGE lump sum for 30 seat licenses of an app, as there used to be.

I've been using Photoshop CC and Lightroom Classic CC for years, and love the fact that they are always up to date, bugs are fixed as soon as a download is available, and updates install automatically.

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Jan 22, 2022 13:20:18   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
KLambar wrote:
I have Lightroom 6 but what I found out is if you buy a Z camera it will not allow you to import photos until they are converted(I use Adobe DNG Converter).


That's how it's always been. The last new cameras LR6 was updated to support their RAW files were released in Dec 2017.

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Jan 22, 2022 13:23:39   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
KLambar wrote:
I have Lightroom 6 but what I found out is if you buy a Z camera it will not allow you to import photos until they are converted(I use Adobe DNG Converter).


It seems to me that if you have a new mirrorless camera and are skilled on Lightroom, it is short sighted to not take advantage of all that is included in the current Adobe system. $10 a month? Did you have a camera that consumed film? How much did that cost?

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Jan 22, 2022 13:27:25   #
KLambar Loc: New Jersey
 
All my DSLR cameras when I put card in and import into LR room no problem but when importing from Z camera in LR I get: Preview unavailable for this file. So, I must take an extra step by using Adobe DNG Converter saving to folder and then importing from that folder.

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