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Jan 20, 2022 19:02:48   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The facts are we will never know how dangerous the Covid 19 virus has been. The numbers are very suspect. Both the number of "cases" and "fatalities" as reported are false. Cases first. Person A has no symptoms but gets tested anyway, tests positive (case#1) . Some time later has symptoms gets tested again (case #2) 3 months later dies of unrelated causes, gets tested again positive (case#3) I person 3 cases. Whether this has or has not ever happened will never be known, but it is certainly possible. So the number of cases is suspect. But it is probably much less than has been reported. Fatalities next. How many died with covid vs how many died from covid.? Certainly more but how much more is unknowable for many reasons. But we do know that the number of "From" is less than "with" So the 2 things that we do know is that there have been fewer cases and fewer fatalities than reported. Maybe FAR fewer. Have we over reacted to a serious disease.? Has the "cure" been worse than the disease? We will never know

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Jan 20, 2022 20:32:10   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
boberic wrote:
The facts are we will never know how dangerous the Covid 19 virus has been. The numbers are very suspect. Both the number of "cases" and "fatalities" as reported are false. Cases first. Person A has no symptoms but gets tested anyway, tests positive (case#1) . Some time later has symptoms gets tested again (case #2) 3 months later dies of unrelated causes, gets tested again positive (case#3) I person 3 cases. Whether this has or has not ever happened will never be known, but it is certainly possible. So the number of cases is suspect. But it is probably much less than has been reported. Fatalities next. How many died with covid vs how many died from covid.? Certainly more but how much more is unknowable for many reasons. But we do know that the number of "From" is less than "with" So the 2 things that we do know is that there have been fewer cases and fewer fatalities than reported. Maybe FAR fewer. Have we over reacted to a serious disease.? Has the "cure" been worse than the disease? We will never know
The facts are we will never know how dangerous the... (show quote)


Even Dr Fauci admitted that many of the children in hospitals that have been tested positive for covid are not there because of covid but because of others medical issues.

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Jan 20, 2022 23:28:49   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
boberic wrote:
The facts are we will never know how dangerous the Covid 19 virus has been. The numbers are very suspect. Both the number of "cases" and "fatalities" as reported are false. Cases first. Person A has no symptoms but gets tested anyway, tests positive (case#1) . Some time later has symptoms gets tested again (case #2) 3 months later dies of unrelated causes, gets tested again positive (case#3) I person 3 cases. Whether this has or has not ever happened will never be known, but it is certainly possible. So the number of cases is suspect. But it is probably much less than has been reported. Fatalities next. How many died with covid vs how many died from covid.? Certainly more but how much more is unknowable for many reasons. But we do know that the number of "From" is less than "with" So the 2 things that we do know is that there have been fewer cases and fewer fatalities than reported. Maybe FAR fewer. Have we over reacted to a serious disease.? Has the "cure" been worse than the disease? We will never know
The facts are we will never know how dangerous the... (show quote)


How about the cases of people who take home tests and are positive, but have symptoms which don't require medical attention, and therefore self-quarantine and are never reported. I know several people in that situation, and there must be many more.

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Jan 21, 2022 00:39:08   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Even Dr Fauci admitted that many of the children in hospitals that have been tested positive for covid are not there because of covid but because of others medical issues.


Hey, Rac, did you miss boberic's comments that there are likely fewer cases and deaths from COVID than what is being reported ("So the 2 things that we do know is that there have been fewer cases and fewer fatalities than reported.")?

That is totally opposite to what you say ("I posted this on here a day or so ago. COVID-19 Infected Many More Americans in 2020 than Official Tallies Show.").

Don't you think you should call him a liar?

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Jan 21, 2022 00:49:08   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Hey, Rac, did you miss boberic's comments that there are likely fewer cases and deaths from COVID than what is being reported ("So the 2 things that we do know is that there have been fewer cases and fewer fatalities than reported.")?

That is totally opposite to what you say ("I posted this on here a day or so ago. COVID-19 Infected Many More Americans in 2020 than Official Tallies Show.").

Don't you think you should call him a liar?


No, because talking about the numbers of people being counted more than once, for each test given to the same person as cases. I have been talking about the rates of death compared to the actual numbers of PEOPLE not cases. That's why I said 99.5% survival rate. But then again, it's late and I maybe just a little confused. lol

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Jan 21, 2022 04:12:55   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
Look at the mortality rate in the U.S. for the past 5 years. Where is the covid spike that we keep hearing about?
It has been established that Dr. Fauci is a moron and has blood on his hands as far as the development of the China virus.

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Jan 21, 2022 11:05:05   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Of course we know that we have overreacted to the disease. The "cure" has definitely been worse than the disease. Look at suicides, bankruptcies, economies, mental health, other deaths, ongoing losses of freedom, growth of a more intrusive government.

Do you really think the dumb politicians controlling us, the partisan political scientists lying to us, Big Pharma raking in billions in profits, and the complicit agenda-driven media hyping the fear and disinformation are correctly doing the right thing for us?

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Jan 21, 2022 12:28:48   #
Triple G
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Of course we know that we have overreacted to the disease. The "cure" has definitely been worse than the disease. Look at suicides, bankruptcies, economies, mental health, other deaths, ongoing losses of freedom, growth of a more intrusive government.

Do you really think the dumb politicians controlling us, the partisan political scientists lying to us, Big Pharma raking in billions in profits, and the complicit agenda-driven media hyping the fear and disinformation are correctly doing the right thing for us?
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You forgot to mention the increase of gun sales and simultaneous increase in gun deaths in your list.

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Jan 21, 2022 12:51:37   #
Watash
 
boberic wrote:
The facts are we will never know how dangerous the Covid 19 virus has been. The numbers are very suspect. Both the number of "cases" and "fatalities" as reported are false. Cases first. Person A has no symptoms but gets tested anyway, tests positive (case#1) . Some time later has symptoms gets tested again (case #2) 3 months later dies of unrelated causes, gets tested again positive (case#3) I person 3 cases. Whether this has or has not ever happened will never be known, but it is certainly possible. So the number of cases is suspect. But it is probably much less than has been reported. Fatalities next. How many died with covid vs how many died from covid.? Certainly more but how much more is unknowable for many reasons. But we do know that the number of "From" is less than "with" So the 2 things that we do know is that there have been fewer cases and fewer fatalities than reported. Maybe FAR fewer. Have we over reacted to a serious disease.? Has the "cure" been worse than the disease? We will never know
The facts are we will never know how dangerous the... (show quote)


Here's some interesting stuff about Covid. We will never know how many people died or were hospitalized,
tested positive, for money either.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-wife-stands-off-with-hospital-to-keep-her-husband-alive-and-wins_4225457.html?utm_source=mr_recommendation&utm_medium=left_sticky

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