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Bridges
Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
Curmudgeon wrote:
I pick up my camera, walk out the door and to me the measure of success is the number shots taken and the number of keepers produced. Few or no shots make it a failed day
When I was younger I would pickup my fly rod, drive three hours to my favorite stream, fish from dawn to dark without even a rise let alone a strike. Drive 3 hours home and consider it a great day.
I wonder why the difference?
I too used to feel bad if I went out with two or three rolls of Kodachrome and came home with only a couple of keepers, sometimes none. Then I read an article about National Geographic photographers. To produce a 4 page spread of maybe a dozen shots, they would fire off 25,000 shots. After that I felt good if I got only a few keepers and was down right elated if I managed to get a dozen from a couple of rolls of 36 exp.!
Bridges wrote:
I too used to feel bad if I went out with two or three rolls of Kodachrome and came home with only a couple of keepers, sometimes none. Then I read an article about National Geographic photographers. To produce a 4 page spread of maybe a dozen shots, they would fire off 25,000 shots. After that I felt good if I got only a few keepers and was down right elated if I managed to get a dozen from a couple of rolls of 36 exp.!
Stories likes these of what actually happened behind the camera should be
required reading and maybe even chalkboard writing exercises for every last remaining member of the School of SOOC.
Curmudgeon wrote:
I pick up my camera, walk out the door and to me the measure of success is the number shots taken and the number of keepers produced. Few or no shots make it a failed day
When I was younger I would pickup my fly rod, drive three hours to my favorite stream, fish from dawn to dark without even a rise let alone a strike. Drive 3 hours home and consider it a great day.
I wonder why the difference?
Itβs all in your perspective about life. Sounds like you view photography as work and fishing as recreation.
Stan
CHG_CANON wrote:
Stories likes these of what actually happened behind the camera should be required reading and maybe even chalkboard writing exercises for every last remaining member of the School of SOOC.
Every shot I get is SOOC. The image goes nowhere else before I download it. They come right (straight) out of the camera to the computer.
Except when I have the horizon off a bit, then they come COOC (Crooked Out Of Camera).
FishIng and photography are both perpetual occasions for hope. They seem similar, but phtography takes a lot more effort and work! With fishing, the fish do most of the work. I guess if one thinks about what all a camera does, it saves all the work of having a bird inside it to chisel the image in stone, like the Flintstone's camera.
But the photographer does most of the work. And lugging is no walk in the park either. I have a sore neck and shoulders after a day of shooting. Fishing is also more relaxing, requires less concentration, but it doesn't pay as well.
FishIng and photography are both perpetual occasions for hope. They seem similar, but phtography takes a lot more effort and work! With fishing, the fish do most of the work. I guess if one thinks about what all a camera does, it saves all the work of having a bird inside it to chisel the image in stone, like the Flintstone's camera.
But the photographer does most of the work. And lugging is no walk in the park either. I have a sore neck and shoulders after a day of shooting. Fishing is also more relaxing, requires less concentration, but it doesn't pay as well.
Bridges wrote:
I too used to feel bad if I went out with two or three rolls of Kodachrome and came home with only a couple of keepers, sometimes none. Then I read an article about National Geographic photographers. To produce a 4 page spread of maybe a dozen shots, they would fire off 25,000 shots. After that I felt good if I got only a few keepers and was down right elated if I managed to get a dozen from a couple of rolls of 36 exp.!
When I was stationed outside Everglades National in the early 60s I had an acquaintance called Frederick K Truslow. He shot for NatGeo. I was not a picture taker then, I couldn't afford a camera. Fred told me an acceptable success rate for him was 1:100. He shot Nikon and Kodachrome which was the only film NatGeo accepted at the time.
Curmudgeon wrote:
When I was stationed outside Everglades National in the early 60s I had an acquaintance called Frederick K Truslow. He shot for NatGeo. I was not a picture taker then, I couldn't afford a camera. Fred told me an acceptable success rate for him was 1:100. He shot Nikon and Kodachrome which was the only film NatGeo accepted at the time.
It hasn't changed much today, even in digital, even in 2022.
CHG_CANON wrote:
It changed much today, even in digital, even in 2022.
Please elaborate Paul. It certainly has changed, high frame rate cameras 30+ fps, better glass, post processing and other things. Do you think the success rate has dropped to maybe 1:10 or even less
Curmudgeon wrote:
Please elaborate Paul. It certainly has changed, high frame rate cameras 30+ fps, better glass, post processing and other things. Do you think the success rate has dropped to maybe 1:10 or even less
typo, corrected, as in
hasn't changed
I keep maybe 1 in 100, possible 2 or 3 in 100, whether shooting in 2 or 3-image bursts or a pokey 5 fps for flying birds or planes.
joecichjr
Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
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Gene51 wrote:
You have very high expectations of your photography. When going for birds and wildlife I will get anywhere from zero to several hundred images of what I went out for, but I rarely come home with nothing.
Here is an example - I went to this marshy area near me looking for specific shorebirds - when I got there there were no shorebirds. I decided to take a minute or two and calibrate my expectations. Then I noticed the obvious - switched cameras to the one with the 24-70 installed, and later changed out the 24-70 to a 70-200, and these were some of the results. For me, even one good image is a successful outing - 10, even more successful.
0054 - _DSC4799-NIKON D800-3064517-(16-11-21)-Pano by
Gene Lugo, on Flickr
0060 - _DSC4805-NIKON D800-3064517-(16-11-21) by
Gene Lugo, on Flickr
0086 - _DSC4832-NIKON D800-3064517-(16-11-21) by
Gene Lugo, on Flickr
0068 - _DSC4814-NIKON D800-3064517-(16-11-21) by
Gene Lugo, on Flickr
And I did end up getting some birds after all:
0080 - _DSC4826-NIKON D800-3064517-(16-11-21) by
Gene Lugo, on Flickr
You have very high expectations of your photograph... (
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If I'd spent time at a place like that, I'd be pretty happy with no keepers. More pleased with some keepers, but plenty happy just having been there.
Curmudgeon wrote:
I pick up my camera, walk out the door and to me the measure of success is the number shots taken and the number of keepers produced. Few or no shots make it a failed day
When I was younger I would pickup my fly rod, drive three hours to my favorite stream, fish from dawn to dark without even a rise let alone a strike. Drive 3 hours home and consider it a great day.
I wonder why the difference?
It all starts with your Handle - I see you chose "Curmudgeon" - choose a different way of looking at things - it is all about attitude
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