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Dec 4, 2021 22:34:16   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Kraken wrote:
Sources discredit themselves.


In this case, and others, there is a “preponderance of evidence” from numerous sources that obviates any attempt to discredit all the sources—left, centrist or right.

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Dec 4, 2021 23:37:59   #
cwp3420
 
DennyT wrote:
Single action revolver can fire without trigger pull- that why revolver are left on empty chamber


Yes, but the hammer has to be struck hard for that to happen. Holding it in your hand and pointing it at someone will not.

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Dec 4, 2021 23:39:42   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
It varies with the weapon. This weapon is supposed to be an antique, so that is likely the case in this instance.


So you have examined said firearm? Since when did a C.O. even know what a firearm is, besides an illegal, class III ATF firearm that you own?

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Dec 5, 2021 00:11:02   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
cwp3420 wrote:
So you have examined said firearm? Since when did a C.O. even know what a firearm is, besides an illegal, class III ATF firearm that you own?


The gun in question was a REPLICA .45 long Colt revolver.

“Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza confirmed that the firearm was an Italian-made Pietta Long Colt revolver.” — Reuters.

This gun is available either with or without a transfer-bar safety mechanism. At this time it is not clear which version was used.

A. The transfer-bar system prevents accidental-discharge if the hammer is released without depressing the trigger (which slides the transfer-bar up between the hammer and the firing pin, allowing the pin to hit the cartridge primer) in this model.

B. In the model without a transfer-bar, there is a full-cock position, where the trigger sear is restraining the hammer. Theoretically, the gun may be discharged by pulling back on the hammer and sliding the thumb off, without depressing the trigger, yet allowing the hammer to fall and ignite a cartridge detonation.

In BOTH models there is a “half-cock” position that holds the hammer back to have the cylinder-locking piece allow the cylinder to freely rotate to facilitate loading.

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Dec 5, 2021 00:12:11   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Yes, but the hammer has to be struck hard for that to happen. Holding it in your hand and pointing it at someone will not.


Not in all cases!

The gun in question was a REPLICA .45 long Colt revolver.

“Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza confirmed that the firearm was an Italian-made Pietta Long Colt revolver.” — Reuters.

This gun is available either with or without a transfer-bar safety mechanism. At this time it is not clear which version was used.

A. The transfer-bar system prevents accidental-discharge if the hammer is released without depressing the trigger (which slides the transfer-bar up between the hammer and the firing pin, allowing the pin to hit the cartridge primer) in this model.

B. In the model without a transfer-bar, there is a full-cock position, where the trigger sear is restraining the hammer. Theoretically, the gun may be discharged by pulling back on the hammer and sliding the thumb off, without depressing the trigger, yet allowing the hammer to fall and ignite a cartridge detonation.

In BOTH models there is a “half-cock” position that holds the hammer back to have the cylinder-locking piece allow the cylinder to freely rotate to facilitate loading.

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Dec 5, 2021 01:01:12   #
cwp3420
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
Not in the least interested!


Then why run your gate mouth and ask about it? Geez, man, get a grip. Did you actually deny this happened?

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Dec 5, 2021 13:25:20   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
cwp3420 wrote:
So you have examined said firearm? Since when did a C.O. even know what a firearm is, besides an illegal, class III ATF firearm that you own?


Go away please.

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