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Nov 20, 2021 12:23:54   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
The game has not changed.

Get a girl, any girl, any age (some look really young), get them to strip, take a picture, B&W or color, call it art and post it…

This section still has not matured into something worth remembering.

Last time I checked was over six months ago…

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Nov 20, 2021 12:52:00   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
I LOOK
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for "almost" all of them ---

YOUR RIGHT!!!

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Nov 20, 2021 12:58:22   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I find some members seem to lack the maturity to appreciate this section.
--Bob
Rongnongno wrote:
The game has not changed.

Get a girl, any girl, any age (some look really young), get them to strip, take a picture, B&W or color, call it art and post it…

This section still has not matured into something worth remembering.

Last time I checked was over six months ago…

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Nov 20, 2021 13:35:49   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
rmalarz wrote:
I find some members seem to lack the maturity to appreciate this section.
--Bob

Sorry bob, but when I look at the dubious offerings and the comments that follow… I disagree.

One in particular, let me wonder about what is more important… Showing a pair of tits or the work offered: One girl who appears too young has been simply 'massacred' during a PP session that turned her into a caricature of a woman.

Where is the interpretation? The play with light? Exposure in every sense of the world is just that. It is voyeurism, nothing else.

Boudoir, nude photography is a lost art. Showing means nothing. Implying, suggesting a curve has more impact than the rawness most folks consider good. Make people think, “What if?” or “Am I seeing this correctly?” has much more appeal. Beauty lies in mystery, interpretation and ultimately vision. Something that sorely lack here.

A woman does not need to be young, thin or pretty to be attractive, same goes for men. Come to think of it, when was the last time a male nude was offered in this section? Fear of being called 'gay'?

The few who offered something intriguing when not controversial have been run out of this section. Think 'starving artist'. I am not a fan of his but heck, his vision was often out of the ordinary.

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Nov 20, 2021 14:03:06   #
MontanaTrace
 
I keep looking. Every now and then, a photo of quality makes it to ugly hedgehog. Not often but when it happens it's a good one.

I look at it as a place where amateurs can show their efforts and receive helpful criticism.

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Nov 20, 2021 17:18:10   #
WirtzWorld Loc: SE WI
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Sorry bob, but when I look at the dubious offerings and the comments that follow… I disagree.

One in particular, let me wonder about what is more important… Showing a pair of tits or the work offered: One girl who appears too young has been simply 'massacred' during a PP session that turned her into a caricature of a woman.

Where is the interpretation? The play with light? Exposure in every sense of the world is just that. It is voyeurism, nothing else.

Boudoir, nude photography is a lost art. Showing means nothing. Implying, suggesting a curve has more impact than the rawness most folks consider good. Make people think, “What if?” or “Am I seeing this correctly?” has much more appeal. Beauty lies in mystery, interpretation and ultimately vision. Something that sorely lack here.

A woman does not need to be young, thin or pretty to be attractive, same goes for men. Come to think of it, when was the last time a male nude was offered in this section? Fear of being called 'gay'?

The few who offered something intriguing when not controversial have been run out of this section. Think 'starving artist'. I am not a fan of his but heck, his vision was often out of the ordinary.
Sorry bob, but when I look at the dubious offering... (show quote)


Good afternoon, Rongnongno. Yes one girl who appears too young was massacred in PP, by me. I've already admitted it and have taken steps to remedy my unfortune misjudgment. And she is not too young, she is quite old enough to make her own decisions in all affairs of her life, and may I say much more mature in her youth than some of the wise old guys I've witnessed on this forum.

It seems to me that you have something of a chip on your shoulder, or maybe a grudge with the whole idea of nude photography?? Surely you must be able to find something nice to say? May I suggest not tuning in to this particular station if it so bothers you to induce a rant. Just like watching tv.

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Nov 20, 2021 17:45:44   #
newsguygeorge Loc: Victoria, Texas
 
WirtzWorld wrote:
Good afternoon, Rongnongno. Yes one girl who appears too young was massacred in PP, by me. I've already admitted it and have taken steps to remedy my unfortune misjudgment. And she is not too young, she is quite old enough to make her own decisions in all affairs of her life, and may I say much more mature in her youth than some of the wise old guys I've witnessed on this forum.

It seems to me that you have something of a chip on your shoulder, or maybe a grudge with the whole idea of nude photography?? Surely you must be able to find something nice to say? May I suggest not tuning in to this particular station if it so bothers you to induce a rant. Just like watching tv.
Good afternoon, Rongnongno. Yes one girl who appe... (show quote)


I debated most of today to respond to Rongnongno, thinking why waste my time. Tell him what I tell others about looking at anything. If you don’t want to see it, don’t look at it. But WirtzWorld did it better.

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Nov 20, 2021 22:58:45   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The game has not changed.

Get a girl, any girl, any age (some look really young), get them to strip, take a picture, B&W or color, call it art and post it…

This section still has not matured into something worth remembering.

Last time I checked was over six months ago…


Jacque, I think you’ve been looking at some of the dross by Timmers et all. There has been some excellent work posted by Thomas, Wirtzsworld and others. Do you actually view this forum regularly, or are you just making a judgement based on a couple of postings? There IS a load of half-assed porn and fetish images that have very dubious artistic value if any (and that’s putting it very kindly), but there is also the occasional excellent work. For example: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-707395-1.html

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Nov 21, 2021 05:32:01   #
PaulG Loc: Western Australia
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The game has not changed.

Get a girl, any girl, any age (some look really young), get them to strip, take a picture, B&W or color, call it art and post it…

This section still has not matured into something worth remembering.

Last time I checked was over six months ago…


There has been some excellent stuff on here and some that is dreadful. Really bad. Obviously there is a huge diversity of ideas and talents on display and, as such, I guess we're all entitled to share our work and seek feedback. There is an awful lot of repetition, an awful lot. Dozens of shots from apparently the same session dribbled out over the months/years. For me, the thing I find difficult to comprehend are placatory comments for shots that are by any stretch of the imagination, woeful. That, and constructive criticism or genuine comments about a particular shot that are ignored by the contributor. I rarely bother with constructive suggestions now for that reason. It suggests to me a certain lack of sincerity on behalf of the contributor. The whole point of a forum is to share work and share justifiably constructive opinions and advice (from those in a position to do so). None of us knows everything, and that way we grow.

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Nov 21, 2021 07:57:07   #
gym Loc: Athens, Georgia
 
TriX wrote:
Jacque, I think you’ve been looking at some of the dross by Timmers et all. There has been some excellent work posted by Thomas, Wirtzsworld and others. Do you actually view this forum regularly, or are you just making a judgement based on a couple of postings? There IS a load of half-assed porn and fetish images that have very dubious artistic value if any (and that’s putting it very kindly), but there is also the occasional excellent work. For example: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-707395-1.html
Jacque, I think you’ve been looking at some of the... (show quote)


Your take on this issue is spot on. We as viewers/readers will make up our own minds as to what is wheat and what is chaff.

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Nov 21, 2021 08:01:13   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
gym wrote:
Your take on this issue is spot on. We as viewers/readers will make up our own minds as to what is wheat and what is chaff.


Yes. And for me there is enough wheat to keep me coming back. And I am mostly amused/befuddled by the chaff!

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Nov 21, 2021 13:33:16   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
No question the quality of postings has gone down since I joined UHH, mainly down to a slew of "naked snapshots" or re-runs vs Nude Photography. And no one, photographer or viewer, seems to want to learn or improve from the postings. But occasionally there is a gem, which keeps me glancing at the section but seldom commenting.

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Nov 21, 2021 13:38:29   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
PaulG wrote:
There has been some excellent stuff on here and some that is dreadful. Really bad. Obviously there is a huge diversity of ideas and talents on display and, as such, I guess we're all entitled to share our work and seek feedback. There is an awful lot of repetition, an awful lot. Dozens of shots from apparently the same session dribbled out over the months/years. For me, the thing I find difficult to comprehend are placatory comments for shots that are by any stretch of the imagination, woeful. That, and constructive criticism or genuine comments about a particular shot that are ignored by the contributor. I rarely bother with constructive suggestions now for that reason. It suggests to me a certain lack of sincerity on behalf of the contributor. The whole point of a forum is to share work and share justifiably constructive opinions and advice (from those in a position to do so). None of us knows everything, and that way we grow.
There has been some excellent stuff on here and so... (show quote)



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Nov 22, 2021 13:26:10   #
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Nov 26, 2021 09:56:31   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
I view this section regularly. The first thing I do is look at is, "who" is posting. There are some that I don't bother to open. There are others that I have learned a lot from. I appreciate the time, thought, and effort that some photographers have put into making a pleasant and intriguing image. It is obvious that some photographers value hair dressers and makeup artist as much, if not more, than the model and themselves. These same photographers have an intense understanding of light, how to place it, how to use it, and how to work around it. This is what keeps me coming back to view and to learn. I'm learning more and more, that photography is all about the light, how to read it, how to use it, how to manipulate it. I have began to see and translate what I am learning here, into other genre of photography, as in landscape, photographing cars at car shows, scale models at contests, people in general and at all types of events, objects of all sorts in museums, on and on. But as I said, I am learning. Many a time I do not feel qualified to critique a photo that is obviously beyond my talents. Many times, I read the responses and if someone has already expressed my thoughts I don't see the point in responding if others just assume that I haven't bothered to read the thread. But, maybe some individuals have noticed, I do ask questions as well as making comments. Perhaps, according to Wirtzworld, I should be making more comments, possibly about what I like or understand, or not understand about a particular image. Do I post here? No. Not in this section, not much in any section. Why? It's personal. It seems not to many others share my interests. I do miss JoeJoe, johntex, southsidejoe, and Graham. I enjoy Cany143, e.i.shaperio, Thomas, rmalsrz, roberling, amphoto, lindafrommaine, gene51, (I'm sorry if I miss spelled some names) and several others. These are people I learn from, by what they say and the photos they post.

So, there is my 2¢ worth, several times over. Take it as you see fit. Like it, or don't. Learn from it or not. I don't care. Just been thinking about it since last night and felt the need to have my say.

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