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Oct 21, 2012 12:58:39   #
Gary ennis Loc: Traverse City MI
 
I took this photo at dawn Bulb mode, 180, F-11, ISO 200, ND 3.0 1000X and it turned out ok. My ? way did this work in the early am and in full sun they were way dark. The settings I used were to be for full sun... Oh I'm using a Canon 5D MKII 17-40 F4L...



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Oct 21, 2012 13:16:13   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Gary ennis wrote:
I took this photo at dawn Bulb mode, 180, F-11, ISO 200, ND 3.0 1000X and it turned out ok. My ? way did this work in the early am and in full sun they were way dark. The settings I used were to be for full sun... Oh I'm using a Canon 5D MKII 17-40 F4L...


No pic

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Oct 21, 2012 13:37:12   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I do not understand some of your nomenclature: 180 what?; 1000X what? And no photographs.

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Oct 21, 2012 14:02:32   #
Gary ennis Loc: Traverse City MI
 
Sorry been havin a heck of a time posting pics it is there now.

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Oct 21, 2012 14:07:12   #
Gary ennis Loc: Traverse City MI
 
The ND filter is a 10 stop down filter pic is there now...

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Oct 22, 2012 07:13:35   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
It might help to post tthe one that was too dark also.
Gary ennis wrote:
I took this photo at dawn Bulb mode, 180, F-11, ISO 200, ND 3.0 1000X and it turned out ok. My ? way did this work in the early am and in full sun they were way dark. The settings I used were to be for full sun... Oh I'm using a Canon 5D MKII 17-40 F4L...

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Oct 22, 2012 07:19:49   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
I'm not sure I understand the question but I like the picture.

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Oct 22, 2012 07:27:15   #
3Stripes Loc: Rocester, UK
 
I too am not sure what you are asking but the picture you have posted is really nice

Chris

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Oct 22, 2012 10:02:01   #
Edmund Dworakowski
 
3Stripes wrote:
I too am not sure what you are asking but the picture you have posted is really nice

Chris


I don't understand your question either but Staighten The Horizon ! Sorry, bu things like this drive me crazy...
I had a similar situation the other night when using my 10 stop B&W filter. The first 2-3 exposures were so dark that they were unusable. When I looked, I noticed that My camera's shutter was not set to BULB. Being in Aprature mode, the shutter was closing waay to soon. When I corrected, the shots were perfect. Here are the results...
this shot was taken at ISO 200, f10, 180sec.



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Oct 22, 2012 12:24:24   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
Gary, I like the variable ND's. I usaully stack a VND on a CP filter. I find this helps to enrich the colors that otherwise might be muted. Also, the CPL will give 2 stops to play with and may not need to max out the VND.

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Oct 22, 2012 13:55:34   #
3Stripes Loc: Rocester, UK
 
ah have just re-read the OP...I think the question is...

"Took these using these settings (which I use for full sun) why did they turn out OK seeing as it was dawn?" (editorial license)

OK I dont think you would use BULB in full sun cos you'd just burn everything out even with your ND3

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Oct 22, 2012 17:30:48   #
rodart Loc: Comanche, TX
 
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
3Stripes wrote:
I too am not sure what you are asking but the picture you have posted is really nice

Chris


I don't understand your question either but Staighten The Horizon ! Sorry, bu things like this drive me crazy...
I had a similar situation the other night when using my 10 stop B&W filter. The first 2-3 exposures were so dark that they were unusable. When I looked, I noticed that My camera's shutter was not set to BULB. Being in Aprature mode, the shutter was closing waay to soon. When I corrected, the shots were perfect. Here are the results...
this shot was taken at ISO 200, f10, 180sec.
quote=3Stripes I too am not sure what you are ask... (show quote)


Is his horizon off that much? I'll measure it in photoshop when I get home, but it looks pretty close to me. It's ever so slightly higher on the left. The terrain and clouds make it look like it's off more, but the water is pretty straight. I like the content. Robert

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Oct 22, 2012 18:23:03   #
Gary ennis Loc: Traverse City MI
 
My Tripod was level, I did not have a smooth Beach and I did not want objects in the photo that would move and blur like the Flag. Just clouds and water. But the effect you got with your shot I like better... I have the same filter have you tryed it in full sun ?

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Oct 22, 2012 18:31:36   #
Gary ennis Loc: Traverse City MI
 
My Tripod was pretty level the rocks about killed me LOL...

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Oct 22, 2012 19:12:20   #
pigpen
 
Nice shots, both of them. I have GOT to get this 10 stop filter, it looks like fun. I have the B+W 2 stop, and 3 stop, but I can only do so much, even stacked. I'm not sure what chapjohn means by variable. Are you talking about the ones you can "spin" (like a cpl) to get different degrees?

Another big help with these kinds of shots, and waterfalls with sky above, is the graduated nd filters. I have the B+W round one, but it was too difficult to line up. I got the Singh Ray 4x6 filters to replace it. They are great. At 4x6, they are large enough to slide up and down to meet the horizon. Another huge advantage, you can spin them, as many times the horizon isn't perfectly level. They were a big hit to the wallet at first ($160 each(2x), plus $100 for the Lee holder and 77mm adaptor), but they have come in handy very often. I'm glad I got them.

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