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Republicans Already Deliberately Deceiving Viewers in First 2022 Ad: CNN-WaPo Fact Check Nails the GOP
Nov 12, 2021 18:42:43   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
When one’s platform is – literally – based on the whims of one man with no principles at all, beyond self-promotion, “messaging” can be a bit of a problem. There are not a lot of things to which MAGAs can point and say, “It was better under Trump!”

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Nov 12, 2021 19:16:53   #
btbg
 
Really. What was the cost of gas under Trump compared to now? What was the cost of beef compared to now? How about milk? Or natural gas? 6.5 percent inflation since Biden took over. Less that 1.5 percent before Biden.

I would say that is a pretty good case for things being better under Trump.

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Nov 12, 2021 20:57:43   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
btbg wrote:
Really. What was the cost of gas under Trump compared to now? What was the cost of beef compared to now? How about milk? Or natural gas? 6.5 percent inflation since Biden took over. Less that 1.5 percent before Biden.

I would say that is a pretty good case for things being better under Trump.


He didnt have anything do with it

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Nov 12, 2021 23:41:19   #
btbg
 
dirtpusher wrote:
He didnt have anything do with it


I don't care if he did or not. You claimed that we weren't better off with Trump as president than we are now. I believe we were way better off than we are now. The cost of everything is way up. Gas was cheap under Trump, relatively speaking so were groceries and natural gas to heat my house. Now, everything has gone up dramatically, in part because of Biden's policy decisions.

So, I for one was way better off with Trump as president. Used to eat a lot of hamburger and some steak. Now we have chicken and low grade cuts of pork, because that is all we can afford. And, gas went from $2.50 when Biden was elected to I paid $3.78.9 today. So yeah, I was way better off with Trump as president, and so was everyone else on a fixed income.

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Nov 13, 2021 00:08:04   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
btbg wrote:
I don't care if he did or not. You claimed that we weren't better off with Trump as president than we are now. I believe we were way better off than we are now. The cost of everything is way up. Gas was cheap under Trump, relatively speaking so were groceries and natural gas to heat my house. Now, everything has gone up dramatically, in part because of Biden's policy decisions.

So, I for one was way better off with Trump as president. Used to eat a lot of hamburger and some steak. Now we have chicken and low grade cuts of pork, because that is all we can afford. And, gas went from $2.50 when Biden was elected to I paid $3.78.9 today. So yeah, I was way better off with Trump as president, and so was everyone else on a fixed income.
I don't care if he did or not. You claimed that we... (show quote)


Maybe if yuh king had did better with covid would be lot cheeper. He would ñot be trying start up alternative source gotta do it sooner or later

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Nov 13, 2021 08:31:05   #
Curtis_Lowe Loc: Georgia
 
dirtpusher wrote:
When one’s platform is – literally – based on the whims of one man with no principles at all, beyond self-promotion, “messaging” can be a bit of a problem. There are not a lot of things to which MAGAs can point and say, “It was better under Trump!”


Until the left admits the fraud perpetrated through the 3 years and millions of government dollars spent on the Political Dirty Trick (LIE) from the HRC campaign involving the DOJ/FBI I don't think I have much stomach from the left complaining about the Republican Lies!

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Nov 13, 2021 08:35:57   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
btbg wrote:
I don't care if he did or not. You claimed that we weren't better off with Trump as president than we are now. I believe we were way better off than we are now. The cost of everything is way up. Gas was cheap under Trump, relatively speaking so were groceries and natural gas to heat my house. Now, everything has gone up dramatically, in part because of Biden's policy decisions.

So, I for one was way better off with Trump as president. Used to eat a lot of hamburger and some steak. Now we have chicken and low grade cuts of pork, because that is all we can afford. And, gas went from $2.50 when Biden was elected to I paid $3.78.9 today. So yeah, I was way better off with Trump as president, and so was everyone else on a fixed income.
I don't care if he did or not. You claimed that we... (show quote)


Biden got vaccine distribution under control. Because of this more people are using gasoline, and gas has become more expensive. Yes, gas was cheaper under Trump, but at the cost of who knows how many lives.

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Nov 13, 2021 09:12:44   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Curtis_Lowe wrote:
Until the left admits the fraud perpetrated through the 3 years and millions of government dollars spent on the Political Dirty Trick (LIE) from the DJT campaign involving the DOJ/FBI I don't think I have much stomach from the right complaining about the DEMOCRAT Lies!


Until the right admits the fraud perpetrated through the 3 years and millions of government dollars spent on the Political Dirty Trick (LIE) from the DJT campaign involving the DOJ/FBI I don't think I have much stomach from the left complaining about the Republican Lies!

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Nov 13, 2021 10:46:33   #
btbg
 
thom w wrote:
Biden got vaccine distribution under control. Because of this more people are using gasoline, and gas has become more expensive. Yes, gas was cheaper under Trump, but at the cost of who knows how many lives.


Deaths from the virus are no better than they were under Trump. So, exactly what has the vaccine accomplished? Besides, to credit Biden with vaccine distribution is ridiculous. Vaccine distribution couldn't have been great under Trump because there hadn't been enough manufactured to be able to fully distribute it. There were still 1 million a day getting vaccinated prior to Biden taking office.

And, you can credit more people driving with gas prices going up, but that does not explain natural gas, or beef, or milk, or any of the multitude of other things that are seeing double digit inflation. Financially we were all better off when Trump was president. That is not a political statement. It is just a fact.

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Nov 13, 2021 18:04:10   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
btbg wrote:
Deaths from the virus are no better than they were under Trump. So, exactly what has the vaccine accomplished? Besides, to credit Biden with vaccine distribution is ridiculous. Vaccine distribution couldn't have been great under Trump because there hadn't been enough manufactured to be able to fully distribute it. There were still 1 million a day getting vaccinated prior to Biden taking office.

And, you can credit more people driving with gas prices going up, but that does not explain natural gas, or beef, or milk, or any of the multitude of other things that are seeing double digit inflation. Financially we were all better off when Trump was president. That is not a political statement. It is just a fact.
Deaths from the virus are no better than they were... (show quote)


You can't even lie worth a dam

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Nov 13, 2021 18:19:01   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
dirtpusher wrote:
You can't even lie worth a dam

What exactly did he lie about? Explain yourself.

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Nov 13, 2021 18:27:35   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
skylane5sp wrote:
What exactly did he lie about? Explain yourself.


Shows your clueless

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Nov 13, 2021 20:58:59   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Curtis_Lowe wrote:
Until the left admits the fraud perpetrated through the 3 years and millions of government dollars spent on the Political Dirty Trick (LIE) from the HRC campaign involving the DOJ/FBI I don't think I have much stomach from the left complaining about the Republican Lies!


Me either.

Well stated!

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