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Oct 3, 2021 14:27:57   #
Rose42
 
Conflict of interest? Maybe. Factcheck.org’s vaccine factchecking was started with a grant from the Johnson Robert Wood (past CEO of J&J) Foundation which has over 12 1/2 million shares in Johnson and Johnson valued at over 2 billion dollars.

Factcheck.org isn’t hiding where the grant came from but its worth noting

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Oct 4, 2021 07:36:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Rose42 wrote:
Conflict of interest? Maybe. Factcheck.org’s vaccine factchecking was started with a grant from the Johnson Robert Wood (past CEO of J&J) Foundation which has over 12 1/2 million shares in Johnson and Johnson valued at over 2 billion dollars.

Factcheck.org isn’t hiding where the grant came from but its worth noting



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Oct 4, 2021 08:01:56   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Rose42 wrote:
Conflict of interest? Maybe. Factcheck.org’s vaccine factchecking was started with a grant from the Johnson Robert Wood (past CEO of J&J) Foundation which has over 12 1/2 million shares in Johnson and Johnson valued at over 2 billion dollars.

Factcheck.org isn’t hiding where the grant came from but its worth noting


I guess that would explain why the J&J vaccine is getting such a push. Oh, wait, it isn't is it? I'm sure the effect you have on my appetite isn't relevant to anything, so I won't mention it.

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Oct 4, 2021 08:47:37   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
I guess that would explain why the J&J vaccine is getting such a push. Oh, wait, it isn't is it? I'm sure the effect you have on my appetite isn't relevant to anything, so I won't mention it.


Its a good thing you don’t have a dog. You’d kick it you poor miserable creature

Your incessant pettiness reveals more about you than anyone else

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Oct 4, 2021 12:52:40   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its a good thing you don’t have a dog. You’d kick it you poor miserable creature

Your incessant pettiness reveals more about you than anyone else


Don't hold back, say what you really feel.

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Oct 4, 2021 14:03:52   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
thom w wrote:
I guess that would explain why the J&J vaccine is getting such a push. Oh, wait, it isn't is it? I'm sure the effect you have on my appetite isn't relevant to anything, so I won't mention it.



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Oct 4, 2021 14:30:50   #
Rose42
 
Alafoto wrote:
Don't hold back, say what you really feel.


Lol. Some people simply don’t want to think. Thom is just one of them.

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Oct 4, 2021 15:27:42   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
I didnt start this one

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Oct 4, 2021 15:31:32   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Rose42 wrote:
Vaccine factcheckers for facebook have 2 billion worth of stock in Johnson and Johnson

Well, any fact-checker would deem this statement to be false.

Facebook's factcheck.org is partially funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which was started by one of the Johnson brothers of Johnson & Johnson, and the Foundation therefore owns a ton of J&J stock. They donated $99,870 to Factcheck.org in fiscal 2021. Factcheck.org publishes their financial disclosure here: https://www.factcheck.org/our-funding/

However it is highly unlikely that the fact checkers themselves own $2B in J&J stock.

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Oct 4, 2021 15:48:00   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
You can always tell a trumpette, but you can't tell him much!

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Oct 4, 2021 16:56:48   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
thom w wrote:
I guess that would explain why the J&J vaccine is getting such a push. Oh, wait, it isn't is it? I'm sure the effect you have on my appetite isn't relevant to anything, so I won't mention it.


https://dearpandemic.org/johnson-johnson-booster-and-delta/

Seems like the science is pushing it. Maybe you are just unaware?

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Meanwhile, many countries including Canada and others in Europe are using a “mix-and-match” approach, pairing a first Astrazeneca (AZ) dose (a similar adenovirus technology to J&J) with a second mRNA dose to increase flexibility due to concerns about vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT) with the AZ vaccine.

In fact Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and German Chancellor Angela Merkel both opted for a first dose of Astrazeneca and second dose of Moderna.

❓What do we know?

Several facts have raised the question of whether a booster for J&J might be desirable in the face of the rising Delta variant.

➡️ In the original trials, J&J’s shot was less effective than the mRNA vaccines at preventing symptomatic infection (66% vs 95% efficacy), though it was highly effective at preventing hospitalization (93% after 14 days & 100% after 28 days).

➡️ Data from the U.K. show reduced protection from one dose of AZ or mRNA vaccines against the Delta variant, while protection from two doses remains high. The drop in one dose protection was larger for the AZ vaccine.

➡️ Several new studies have shown that boosting adenovirus-based vaccine like AZ & J&J with an mRNA version results in a strong immune response and may even have immune benefits compared to two doses of the same vaccine.

So what's your preference? Less likely to get sick or less likely to get hospitalized and die?

Go panic amongst yourselves....

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Oct 4, 2021 17:01:26   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
David Martin wrote:
Well, any fact-checker would deem this statement to be false.

Facebook's factcheck.org is partially funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which was started by one of the Johnson brothers of Johnson & Johnson, and the Foundation therefore owns a ton of J&J stock. They donated $99,870 to Factcheck.org in fiscal 2021. Factcheck.org publishes their financial disclosure here: https://www.factcheck.org/our-funding/

However it is highly unlikely that the fact checkers themselves own $2B in J&J stock.
Well, any fact-checker would deem this statement t... (show quote)


https://www.thestreet.com/technology/facebook-whistleblower-latest-news

The goal of FB fact checkers is not to increase truth but instead to increase profits.

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Oct 4, 2021 17:35:41   #
Rose42
 
David Martin wrote:
Well, any fact-checker would deem this statement to be false.

Facebook's factcheck.org is partially funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which was started by one of the Johnson brothers of Johnson & Johnson, and the Foundation therefore owns a ton of J&J stock. They donated $99,870 to Factcheck.org in fiscal 2021. Factcheck.org publishes their financial disclosure here: https://www.factcheck.org/our-funding/

However it is highly unlikely that the fact checkers themselves own $2B in J&J stock.
Well, any fact-checker would deem this statement t... (show quote)


Except that isn’t what I said. I specifically said the “vaccine factchecking” was funded by the group, that they owned 2 billion in stocks and who was a former CEO. It was also mentioned there was no attempt to hide who gave the grant.

People should pay more attention to what they read.

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Oct 4, 2021 17:56:16   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Rose42 wrote:
Except that isn’t what I said. I specifically said the “vaccine factchecking” was funded by the group, that they owned 2 billion in stocks and who was a former CEO. It was also mentioned there was no attempt to hide who gave the grant.

People should pay more attention to what they read.

Of course I paid attention.
If you look carefully at my post, I was responding to the title of your post, which I presume you yourself wrote: "Vaccine factcheckers for facebook have 2 billion worth of stock in Johnson and Johnson."

It was regarding that statement (the title, not what you said in the remainder of your post) that I suspected fact checkers would deem to be false.

People should pay more attention to the post to which they respond, before responding.

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Oct 4, 2021 19:37:45   #
Rose42
 
David Martin wrote:
Of course I paid attention.
If you look carefully at my post, I was responding to the title of your post, which I presume you yourself wrote: "Vaccine factcheckers for facebook have 2 billion worth of stock in Johnson and Johnson."

It was regarding that statement (the title, not what you said in the remainder of your post) that I suspected fact checkers would deem to be false.

People should pay more attention to the post to which they respond, before responding.


Lol. You are indeed correct - my title was misleading and I had not meant it to be. Should have double checked it!

However, there is still a red flag people should be aware of - a potential conflict of interest. Thats all I meant to point out.

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