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Sep 20, 2021 12:39:34   #
Canisdirus
 
Let's just flip it a bit.

Photographers who don't PP...are just lazy.

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Sep 20, 2021 12:41:11   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
Ansel Adams heavily post processed many of his images. The post processing of one of his most famous images is explained: https://petapixel.com/2016/06/24/making-ansel-adams-famous-image/

Edward Weston's famous images are post processed.. I believe all notable photographers post process in some manner.

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Sep 20, 2021 12:41:58   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The grass is always greener when you process with PhotoShop.

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Sep 20, 2021 12:42:25   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
The camera reproduces what is there. Photoshop reproduces what I saw.



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Sep 20, 2021 12:44:45   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
The camera reproduces what is there. Photoshop reproduces what I saw.


The camera tries to reproduce what is there. It doesn't always succeed on its own.

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Sep 20, 2021 12:58:45   #
Meadwilliam
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
But it is closer to reality than the original. The complexion of the people on the left is not darker than those on the right.

The darkened faces is an artifact of the lighting.


You mean consequence. Artifacts are not naturally occurring.

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Sep 20, 2021 13:03:58   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Meadwilliam wrote:
You mean consequence. Artifacts are not naturally occurring.


I was not an english major.

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Sep 20, 2021 13:04:29   #
DAN Phillips Loc: Graysville, GA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
So misguided. Whether it’s choices you make in PP or choices made by the engineers that designed the processing module in your camera, influenced by your camera settings, the final image is processed. The closest you can get to “true” SOOC would be to shoot raw and do no post. Even then you would get different results with different cameras.

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Sep 20, 2021 13:05:16   #
DAN Phillips Loc: Graysville, GA
 
My prerogative, my choice and my business!

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Sep 20, 2021 13:05:31   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Photography is easy, it's learning PhotoShop that's hard.

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Sep 20, 2021 13:16:52   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You don't take a photograph, you make an image in Photoshop.


You make an image in PP, not necessarily using Photoshop.

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Sep 20, 2021 13:16:54   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
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Sep 20, 2021 13:21:09   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
My prerogative, my choice and my business!


Absolutely!

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Sep 20, 2021 13:24:52   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You can easily judge the character of a man by the software he uses.

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Sep 20, 2021 13:39:08   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Leinik wrote:
To qualify Dan's response of "misguided" seems to me another "misguidance." 1- it makes the presented info not as helpful as could be (although true but it can be considered as biased as definitely ignoring what the goals of the camera manufacturers are. They sell a lot of equipment to photojournalists and commercial photographers for whom an as-close-as-possible rendition of colors, density and contrast matter). So there is a difference between heavy post-processing and no processing even on a more "philosophical" ground. 2-Now it is also true that many that will not post-process do it by default rather than invest in what can be costly equipment (computer, software,...) and time.
These (Dan's and SuperflyTNT's) are two different attitudes, points of view and if taken knowingly are not misguided. Neither yours (that some could also find "misguided" and pushing things (PP) too far), nor Dan's may look "misguided" to most of us, just the expressions of two points of view reflected in fact in the patronyms each of us chose: Dan and SuperflyTNT ;o) Let us relax and smile!
To qualify Dan's response of "misguided"... (show quote)


I’m sticking with misguided. He stated that any post processing is a divergence from reality. That is misguided and shows that he knows very little about what goes on within the camera or in post processing. I’m fine with whatever he wants to do but to say that anything not SOOC is farther from reality than that camera generated JPEG is flat wrong.

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