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Oct 17, 2012 10:33:31   #
GHS58 Loc: Missouri, USA
 
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled,
public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should
be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands
should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt. People must
again learn to work instead of living on public assistance."

- Cicero , 55 BC

So, evidently we've learned nothing in the past 2,067 years.

ROME fell, and so can we......

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Oct 17, 2012 11:01:53   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
That is their whole intent fall like rome. So we can form the American union like euro union. We going to get the amero like the euro

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Oct 17, 2012 11:17:14   #
farmerjim Loc: Rugby, England
 
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
I think Winston Churchill said that and he was quoting a Spanish philosopher George Santayana.

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Oct 17, 2012 17:57:46   #
BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida
 
Numerous sources attribute that particular quote to..
actually originated in A Pillar of Iron (1965), Taylor Caldwell's fictionalized account of the life of the senator. (In fact, Collins noted that it was on page 483 of the edition he had in hand.)

Collins held that the alleged quotation "is totally without documentation," and that "the great bulk of [Caldwell's] quotations are false." He further observed that "[a] historical novelist has a perfect right to put invented conversations and anecdotes into a novel, but should not represent these inventions as authentic history."

Cicero's actual quote was ...
"What Rome really needs is a good 5-cent cigar!"

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Oct 17, 2012 19:05:52   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
BW326 wrote:


Cicero's actual quote was ...
"What Rome really needs is a good 5-cent cigar!"


:thumbup: :thumbup: :lol:

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Oct 17, 2012 19:35:06   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
A cigar smoker not am I.
I was enticed through great food and 100 year old cognac to try a cigar, I chose a cuban cigar the name of which I can not remember.
Rather like smoking a slimy rope.
What people see it this activy remains a myustery to me.

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Oct 17, 2012 20:02:38   #
ngc1514 Loc: Atlanta, Ga., Lancaster, Oh. and Stuart, Fl.
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
A cigar smoker not am I.
I was enticed through great food and 100 year old cognac to try a cigar, I chose a cuban cigar the name of which I can not remember.
Rather like smoking a slimy rope.
What people see it this activy remains a myustery to me.


Strangely enough, there are probably some people out there who would say something similar about 100 year old cognac. My vote, why ruin the taste of a fine cognac with a piece of burning weed?

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Oct 18, 2012 09:35:52   #
Vern49 Loc: Lakeside,Ca.(eastern San Diego County)
 
ngc1514 wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
A cigar smoker not am I.
I was enticed through great food and 100 year old cognac to try a cigar, I chose a cuban cigar the name of which I can not remember.
Rather like smoking a slimy rope.
What people see it this activy remains a myustery to me.


Strangely enough, there are probably some people out there who would say something similar about 100 year old cognac. My vote, why ruin the taste of a fine cognac with a piece of burning weed?


Howdy......
Burning weed.... :shock:

Vern... :thumbup:

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Oct 18, 2012 10:00:16   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
dirtpusher wrote:
That is their whole intent fall like rome. So we can form the American union like euro union. We going to get the amero like the euro


of course from the fall of rome came the enlightenment

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Oct 18, 2012 10:22:38   #
workhorse Loc: Nashville, TN
 
For those addicted to nicotine the burning weed would be wonderful. 15 years come November 17, 9:00 pm without a puff but who's counting. Cognac, personally would prefer burbon, probably because I am a southerner. Docrob, from the enlightenment came the inquisition if I am not mistaken. However, history does seem to have a way of repeating itself.

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Oct 18, 2012 10:39:48   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
forget the past, we are too dumb to learn from last week./

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Oct 18, 2012 10:42:21   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
workhorse wrote:
For those addicted to nicotine the burning weed would be wonderful. 15 years come November 17, 9:00 pm without a puff but who's counting. Cognac, personally would prefer burbon, probably because I am a southerner. Docrob, from the enlightenment came the inquisition if I am not mistaken. However, history does seem to have a way of repeating itself.


you could be right - inquisition then enlightenment. Burning witches to burning weed. Guess we need to go through another Inquisition to see the light. So who to burn first.....gays? democrats? women who take birth control? men who don't have jobs? Immigrants? Colored people? The poor? The list is just so long.........we could have a very long period of Dark Ages.

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Oct 18, 2012 10:55:06   #
workhorse Loc: Nashville, TN
 
Docrob, you are being picky, you want to make sure who is going to get burned before you agree. Burn or don't burn, one way or the other, you can't pick and choose this time. If you aren't with me you are against me, how about that? I may be able to go for a political cleansing, get rid of all of them, next election no one can run for re-election and only people who will vote for term limits on every position can run. I like my idea. "That's my opinion, it aught to be yours."

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Oct 18, 2012 12:01:33   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Here is a guy that thinks american people don't wanna know or are wanting direct pick it up youre'self tequila.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA

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Oct 18, 2012 12:52:04   #
krgatlgm Loc: Las Vegas, Nv
 
bull drink water wrote:
forget the past, we are too dumb to learn from last week./


This is the best statement in this thread, true and funny!! :lol: :lol:

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