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Handheld Night Shots…iPhone 12 Mini Vs. Panasonic LX10
Aug 18, 2021 08:13:58   #
deanfl Loc: Georgia
 
I recently did a small comparison, for handheld night shots, of my recently acquired iPhone 12 Mini vs my compact Panasonic LX10. The LX10 has a 1.4 Lens, with a 1 inch sensor, so, for it’s type, it does well in low light. These were some of the first handheld night shots I took with my new iPhone. I posted these iPhone photos previously in the Smartphone section.

I prefer the iPhone photos. I would choose the LX10 if I need more zoom.

A tripod would benefit both cameras.

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Aug 18, 2021 08:29:47   #
ashriverguy Loc: Rural Minnesota
 
Nice low light photos, deanfl. For the last few years I’ve been doing what you did. If I take a very important photo, that I really care about, and have the time, I’ll back it up with my iPhone X. Sometimes I prefer the iPhone version.

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Aug 18, 2021 08:43:19   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
In this comparison I prefer the iPhone images. They have better color rendition and resolution.

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Aug 18, 2021 09:28:05   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Sort of a good presentation with caveat - Not enough info to truly judge pic vs. pic: To me it looks like you missed (or camera auto missed or improperly set maybe) proper or same exposure parameters with the LX10... as presented, the phone pics are brighter, but I'm sure the camera could be coaxed to do much better than the phone (unless the camera has issues). No doubt the phones have come a long way, but the camera should give a better outcome head to head, and tripod comment is spot on for both. Anyway, just another opinion.

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Aug 18, 2021 10:04:17   #
deanfl Loc: Georgia
 
olemikey wrote:
Sort of a good presentation with caveat - Not enough info to truly judge pic vs. pic: To me it looks like you missed (or camera auto missed or improperly set maybe) proper or same exposure parameters with the LX10... as presented, the phone pics are brighter, but I'm sure the camera could be coaxed to do much better than the phone (unless the camera has issues). No doubt the phones have come a long way, but the camera should give a better outcome head to head, and tripod comment is spot on for both. Anyway, just another opinion.
Sort of a good presentation with caveat - Not enou... (show quote)


Thank you for taking the time to comment.

The LX10 has a specific scene mode for “Handheld Night Shot” that I used. Can the camera do better for these types of shots than what was presented here? I used Photoshop Elements and Snapseed for PP. If I spent more time on PP the results may be better.

This was a brief comparison. I do know that the low light performance of my new iPhone is probably the most noticeable improvement over my old iPhone 7.

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Aug 18, 2021 13:50:32   #
deanfl Loc: Georgia
 
I just ran one of the LX10 photos through Snapseed again. I think the color and lighting are improved.


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Aug 18, 2021 14:12:12   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
deanfl wrote:
I just ran one of the LX10 photos through Snapseed again. I think the color and lighting are improved.


Looks better. I think we all may get a bit to hung up on phone versus camera, but in reality the phone is (in photo usage) another camera..... matching up all the variables of F-stop, shutter speed, ISO, and other settings, same FOV, same amount of vibration comp., same handling techniques (and induced movement), same processing, and others may be the hardest part of a direct comparison.

This is interesting (to my inner tech-head), and I do like the subject matter, nice looking old courthouse. From your point of view, which do you feel was easier to shoot with, LX-10 or phone camera: aside from the general "handiness" of modern cell phones and/or the inate capability of LX-10 (as in; it should produce the better photo) ? The reason I ask, is that I have often found the general "form factor" of different cameras to have a greater effect on outcomes than one would imagine....hand size, grip, weight, balance, placement of controls, shutter button sensitivity, etc. etc... Anyway, it is an interesting comparison.

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Aug 18, 2021 14:41:14   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
deanfl wrote:
I recently did a small comparison, for handheld night shots, of my recently acquired iPhone 12 Mini vs my compact Panasonic LX10. The LX10 has a 1.4 Lens, with a 1 inch sensor, so, for it’s type, it does well in low light. These were some of the first handheld night shots I took with my new iPhone. I posted these iPhone photos previously in the Smartphone section.

I prefer the iPhone photos. I would choose the LX10 if I need more zoom.

A tripod would benefit both cameras.


Look awesome 🍀🍀🍀

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Aug 18, 2021 15:23:29   #
deanfl Loc: Georgia
 
olemikey wrote:
Looks better. I think we all may get a bit to hung up on phone versus camera, but in reality the phone is (in photo usage) another camera..... matching up all the variables of F-stop, shutter speed, ISO, and other settings, same FOV, same amount of vibration comp., same handling techniques (and induced movement), same processing, and others may be the hardest part of a direct comparison.

This is interesting (to my inner tech-head), and I do like the subject matter, nice looking old courthouse. From your point of view, which do you feel was easier to shoot with, LX-10 or phone camera: aside from the general "handiness" of modern cell phones and/or the inate capability of LX-10 (as in; it should produce the better photo) ? The reason I ask, is that I have often found the general "form factor" of different cameras to have a greater effect on outcomes than one would imagine....hand size, grip, weight, balance, placement of controls, shutter button sensitivity, etc. etc... Anyway, it is an interesting comparison.
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A little over 2 years ago I started watching YouTube videos on cell phones. I learned how to use and even how to best hold one(in my case iPhones). For me, this made all the difference in finding how useful the smartphones can be. The LX 10 has poor ergonomics, but I knew that up front. I like using the touch screen to compose and take the photo. Right now, for something I care about, and some distance from home, I use a Nikon D7500 on a tripod. I have the LX10 in a small case on my belt and the iPhone in my pocket. This may be more information than you were looking for.

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Aug 18, 2021 16:12:34   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
deanfl wrote:
A little over 2 years ago I started watching YouTube videos on cell phones. I learned how to use and even how to best hold one(in my case iPhones). For me, this made all the difference in finding how useful the smartphones can be. The LX 10 has poor ergonomics, but I knew that up front. I like using the touch screen to compose and take the photo. Right now, for something I care about, and some distance from home, I use a Nikon D7500 on a tripod. I have the LX10 in a small case on my belt and the iPhone in my pocket. This may be more information than you were looking for.
A little over 2 years ago I started watching YouTu... (show quote)


Understand completely, and "different strokes for different folks". At present I do not do much cell photography, mostly Nikon D71/7200 and Sony SLT/DSLR's and Sony MILC. Still, enjoyed the observations and banter. Cheers!

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Aug 19, 2021 16:29:18   #
JimRPhoto Loc: Raleigh NC
 
I remind myself all the time that we are no longer taking photos. We are creating files. The camera has its own software that creates the file. The program we choose to view with, on our tablet or on our computer, deciphers the file and converts it to an image. But it’s all digital files. I find it interesting to compare the same photo, displayed on my iPad vs on my Dell computer. They are not the same. Now, those who shoot RAW will present a different story, but still even with RAW, there is a processor on each end.

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Aug 19, 2021 17:05:10   #
nosretep Loc: S. W. Montana
 

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Aug 19, 2021 21:21:33   #
John from gpwmi Loc: Michigan
 
Nice comparisons. I've occasionally have gotten better results with an iPhone. In fact, for most family gatherings that's what I use most of the time. One other point that I don't think was mentioned is the greater dof of the phone camera.

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