Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Check out Underwater Photography Forum section of our forum.
Main Photography Discussion
what could be done to give more "3D-look"
Page <<first <prev 4 of 7 next> last>>
Aug 18, 2021 14:33:11   #
User ID
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I used the 3D filter in Photoshop 2021 to give this picture a 3D look without glasses.

To me, it just looks like CA gone mad ...

Could you please post the same image but minus the 3D filter ?

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 14:36:52   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
williejoha wrote:
Forget about stacking. For me it sacrifices the tree dimensional aspect of the picture. Not everything has be in focus, otherwise the picture goes flat. Light control and focus are your best tools. Good luck.
WJH

Actually, if done right focus stacking can increase a three dimensional look. I attached an image that I posted on UHH some time ago. It was focus stacked at f/2.8 so that I could accurately separate the in-focus areas from the very nearby out of focus areas. This could not have been done with a single image because the in-focus parts required several images and a large enough f stop to get it all in focus would have brought the background into focus. Stacking is a great tool for this sort of thing. And...it is so dang easy to do at 1X or less why not use this tool. It only gets difficult when doing the types of things Sippy Jug and others here are doing.


(Download)

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 14:44:25   #
User ID
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Very nice. I thought it was some kind of underwater structure.


Reminded me of those scanning electron microscope images of pollen, microbes, bee’s tongue, stuff like that. BTW, the “scanning” part of electron microscopy is quite literally continuous focus stacking (no steps or individual frames).

Some SEM images:
.


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)

Reply
 
 
Aug 18, 2021 15:19:06   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
Wallen wrote:
Your photos can actually be edited for selective blurring. If its ok, I can give it a shot.


Oh yes Wallen! Y're welcome, feel free to do want you like

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 15:36:20   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
cbtsam wrote:
I don't know how to answer your question, but I hope you don't show this picture to any young children; if I'd knowd that the food my mother wanted me to eat looked like this close-up, I'd have never ever eaten it!


If Your mother had explain her baby "fractal structures are beautiful subjects for great photographers" You would have probably fell (early or late) in love of this "brocolli" (dixit Gene 51- who is twice great: once as photographer+once as a steam cooker!)
Back to Your hope: No, I didn't show this to any children...
I know exactly: after 6 y.o., they like only either pizza, or spaghettis (generic nuddles); some of them would add to their wishlist "purée Mousline"(fake purée from strange potatoes made of "synthétic stuff"???)

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 15:50:38   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
R.G. wrote:
Extreme adjustments typically produce unwanted effects. The usual way to add adjustments is to push them to the point where the unwanted effects start to appear, them back off a little. With a "robust" file (i.e. data rich) you can push further before the unwanted effects start to appear. By "unwanted" I mean starting to look overcooked or overstretched in some way. For example, lift the shadows too much and you get noise and a wishy-washy look, plus the colours in the shadows may not be 100% accurate. In my experience, HDR merging produces stronger, cleaner colours and less noise, and the file as a whole can take more extreme adjustments. One consequence of that is that it's easier to hold on to a natural look while you push the adjustments. I think that's as good as I can explain what I was trying to describe .
Extreme adjustments typically produce unwanted eff... (show quote)


Well...this is a great describing and I understand now.
Thank You "R.G."
I understand now why You choose to write a somewhat shorter way! I also would have do it.

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 16:03:05   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Good question
Lots of good answers
Thanks

Reply
Check out The Dynamics of Photographic Lighting section of our forum.
Aug 18, 2021 16:12:01   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
Here is my try at adjusting the photo to make a bit more 3-D appearance. It was done with minimal of technology--just MS Paint and IrfanView. --Richard



Reply
Aug 18, 2021 16:37:31   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
profbowman wrote:
Here is my try at adjusting the photo to make a bit more 3-D appearance. It was done with minimal of technology--just MS Paint and IrfanView. --Richard


Wow...superb! I love it!
I don't know about IrfanView and MS Paint...never heard from them.
Are they "free softwares"?
In any case, they do provide quite spectacular result with the "right skilled operator"!
Thank You Prof' BowMan...

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 17:04:22   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Loving R.G.'s split tone rendering...
So reminiscent of Duotones albeit septa toning is indeed very similar...
Fond memories of darkroom days long gone and fading awau... I still miss it...

" BTW, the “scanning” part of electron microscopy is quite literally continuous focus stacking (no steps or individual frames)." thank you User ID... nice to see SARS-CoV-2 close up and friendly in the second to last scan... lol

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 17:13:10   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
jackm1943 wrote:
Actually, if done right focus stacking can increase a three dimensional look. I attached an image that I posted on UHH some time ago. It was focus stacked at f/2.8 so that I could accurately separate the in-focus areas from the very nearby out of focus areas. This could not have been done with a single image because the in-focus parts required several images and a large enough f stop to get it all in focus would have brought the background into focus. Stacking is a great tool for this sort of thing. And...it is so dang easy to do at 1X or less why not use this tool. It only gets difficult when doing the types of things Sippy Jug and others here are doing.
Actually, if done right focus stacking can increas... (show quote)


Very NICE......

Reply
Check out Commercial and Industrial Photography section of our forum.
Aug 18, 2021 18:33:14   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
Dan' de Bourgogne wrote:
Wow...superb! I love it!
I don't know about IrfanView and MS Paint...never heard from them.
Are they "free softwares"?
In any case, they do provide quite spectacular result with the "right skilled operator"!
Thank You Prof' BowMan...


MS Paint comes with Windows or can be downloaded free from Microsoft. IrfanView is a free photo editing software. Irfan Skiljan does appreciate if any user contributes to his project. I did that the other year after using IrfanView for more than a decade. --Richard

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 20:22:24   #
SkyKing Loc: Thompson Ridge, NY
 
…so one of the things I looked at was that the white seems to be washed out and was wondering if exposure bracketing would have allowed more detail…the other thing I was thinking about would Adams’ zone system help with pure black and no detail and pure white with no detail…?

User ID wrote:
Yes, off base. Worse, off basics.

Start with simple. Then harshly question every possible thing you might do to it on a “because I can” basis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All that “technique” that you laundry listed is best forgotten. All that stuff is just various methods for converting the simple into the complex. Its main purpose is to bestow guru status on its authors.

Yes, such stuff works, but is also toadally unnecessary. OTOH it’s easy to see why it sells very well on UHH :-(
Yes, off base. Worse, off basics. br br Start wi... (show quote)

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 20:59:08   #
User ID
 
SkyKing wrote:
…so one of the things I looked at was that the white seems to be washed out and was wondering if exposure bracketing would have allowed more detail…the other thing I was thinking about would Adams’ zone system help with pure black and no detail and pure white with no detail…?

The histogram really obsoletes the zone system. Use it. Blinkies can be almost as useful. And wherever a situation permits, bracket. Acoarst if you’re using 8x10 film bracketing gets expensive. That is where the zone system shines.

Reply
Aug 18, 2021 21:54:36   #
SkyKing Loc: Thompson Ridge, NY
 
…so my understanding is that a camera’s sensor exposes for middle grey (Zone 5)…and that is kinda what happened in this photo…most of it appears grey so there was a difficult time in trying to create depth because it could not be “pushed” in either direction without washing it out or underexposing it…depth a.k.a 3D effect can be created by adding shadow without clipping highlights or shadow…a round circle becomes a ball when you add shadow and create a light sauce…that is why I thought the best suggestion so far was to change the light sauce by providing side lighting…the golden hour provides longer shadows and helps with creating flattering lighting situations…

User ID wrote:
The histogram really obsoletes the zone system. Use it. Blinkies can be almost as useful. And wherever a situation permits, bracket. Acoarst if you’re using 8x10 film bracketing gets expensive. That is where the zone system shines.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 4 of 7 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Check out Underwater Photography Forum section of our forum.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.