Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin

Obviously all this is flimsy evidence and a Commie plot and could not possibly be real could it. https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/#FullReport

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

Well they do only have relevance if they run around screaming the end of the world is nigh. We've only had moderately good climate data for about 50 years, I think they should get back to us in a couple of million with their recommendations.

Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin

You obviously have realised that its a hoax and the rapid temperature rises and increasing frequency of extraordinary weather events are not real

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

Ok, Let's have a little quiz. In the year 1500, how many hurricanes that today would be named storms hit eastern North America? How much rain fell that year? What was the hottest day, what was the average temperature in all the places where we currently have weather stations? Obviously, the answer is no one knows. And the answers for almost every year modern man has existed are the same. What we do know is the world has been much hotter than now, and much colder. Yes, it's scary, but so is that lady buying all the cheese doodles in the check-out line at Walmart. Yikes!

Last Wednesday, the predicated high here in central NC missed the actual temperature by about 3 degrees. Mistakes like this are typical and most people think, and rightly so, that 3 degrees is pretty darn close. What's the temp going to be for this year's Army-Navy game on December 11th? (Beat Navy!) The weatherman doesn't have a clue and that's only a few months down the road. In the past, it's been in the 70s and it's been in the 30s.

The truth is we have actual hard climate data for very few solar cycles of man's history, and the sun rules the scene in climate outcome. Scientists splice very subjective data from tree rings, glacial ice cores, and anecdotal references and try to interpret what our climate trends are. They should really just cut their losses and brew beer. It's much more rewarding.

If you want to let a bunch of self-important scientists cherry-pick their data so they can be relevant and tell us exactly how we should be living to save our planet, then go ahead. They are very good at mistifying their reports so they can be simultaneously important and slippery. I don't think they've ever, ever been wrong about anything.

You listen to them. Me, I'm going to push back as much as I can.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

There were no named hurricanes in 1500.

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

Aren't you cute? Read my text.

Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin

So what your saying is that we should ignore the scientific evidence and all the increasing weather patterns. Did you actually read the report? I seriously doubt you did but watch the news sure wildfires have happened before, sure floods have happened before, sure storms have happened before but not with the increasing regularity they are now. To ignore these warnings is like closing your eyes whistling and ignoring the disaster that is creeping up on you. Thank god not everyone is as foolish as you because if everyone had the same mindset as you we would still be living in caves.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

IPCC, the political arm of the UN. Nice! Now there's an organization that has never in the past exploited climate change for their Marxist goals.

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

Bob of the usurped, Mad Magazine avatar, I do enjoy sparring with you.

Let's start with caves. If you were the Nostradamus of European cave dwellers YOU would have urged your people to stay in the caves. It takes very little fossil fuel to stay comfortable in a cave, not too cold, not too hot. Of course, if you stay in the first few chambers you'll be sleeping in bat $hit, but you guys are bat $hit crazy, so I don't think you'll mind. Just because I don't agree with your relatively newfangled idea of imminent global climate catastrophe, does not make me a Luddite. I'm an engineer and pretty handy. I'm leaving the cave, Bob, and If I have to burn a bit of dead wood to stay warm, so be it.

Now, let's think about climatology as a career choice. If I'm a good architect, there are always rewarding projects to keep me gainfully employed. Engineers can always find work. Doctors and nurses, bless them, will never run out of people to treat. This list goes on forever for most fields of study.

If I'm a climatologist, how do I get recognition and keep food on the table? I study climate nine ways to Sunday and I publish my findings. That is all well and good. I'm not saying we don't need climate scientists and the other engineers, programmers, and mathematicians that work with them. At issue is their customers. Right now, the cause de jour is the wreck Man has made of the world's climate. If you're a climatologist and have a report to support the opposite argument you're not going to eat as well, you may have trouble finding a university to employ you, and Google is going to bury your findings at the ass end of the internet.

There are plenty of smart people that don't think the end of the world is nigh. Here is one of them.

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/climate-science-was-corrupted-says-award-winning-climate-scientist

FrumCA

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FrumCA

National Park

Science doesn't care what you wrongly think.

cwp3420

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Woe to us!

Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin

Love your flowery eloquent reply which if you break it down quotes one expert against the majority and again in your somewhat simplistic narrative you suggest that all the environmental scientists are liars who are lying for some obscure political and personal gain. Methinks tis not me usurped but thou. Like you I am an engineer and was one for all my working life and when I stood with others who had vast experience all saying things are going wrong I tend to believe them. I learnt as you should have done that planned preventative maintenance is much more preferable to a breakdown. The problem is what we are talking about is this big beautiful space ship we are traveling on and if we cock it up we are all in big trouble. Obviously you will never agree with any of the findings until it effects you like the Californian's, Greeks, Italians and others who are fighting fires, watching the oceans rising and seeing their homes being destroyed by unprecedented storms. I respect your view and your right to express it but if I agreed with it we would both be wrong. So come back to me in ten years if I'm still around and if I'm wrong I will gladly admit it and say sorry.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Have you and your climate central meteorologists been around since the last ice age or are you just weather central?