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Jul 13, 2021 09:34:27   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
JBRIII wrote:
Especially problematic during heavy rain in at least some areas. Remember lots of news stories of people going into caves, rains, water rises and they get trapped.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44791998

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Jul 13, 2021 10:01:10   #
JBRIII
 
Wallen wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44791998


I believe it has also happened a lot in Kentucky. Wild cave tour can be very wet at times due to weather.

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Jul 13, 2021 16:56:33   #
HatsuoHiga Loc: Hawaii
 
You can also see the Himeyuri Peace Museum, the cave where young girls were told by the japanese army to jump to commit suicide and never surrender during the WWII. There is also the cliff where the boys had to jump to commit suicide. There also caves in Urasoe city near the old Shuri castle cite where the japanese army used to protect from the USA army during WWII. The Shuri castle burned down completely in 2119 due to electric malfunctions, and a big loss of attractions.

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Jul 13, 2021 17:11:50   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Wallen wrote:
Whoa, never go into caves alone. Even for commercial caves with lighted paths, going in alone is very unsafe.
When we explored, we had 2 locals as our guide and even then only 3 of us went in and 2 of my buddies stayed out. It was a wild cave and we had to squeeze into a tiny hole to get in.


Thank God I did not know this when I was a kid.
I explored caves and climbed cliffs, no ropes or gear, for years and lived.
Oh yes, and dozens of old abandoned mines.
Had I known this I would likely not have survived.

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Jul 13, 2021 19:40:14   #
JustJill Loc: Iowa
 
Thanks everyone. I enjoyed reading what everyone had to say. I did take what I learned with me, even though my hike was pretty low key. The caves were in a State Park in Iowa. The path was well lit. I tried both with flash and without out. I am not real happy with my photos. I did not see any cool photo opportunities inside the cave. I did not get adventurous and enter the caves that I had to crawl through the entrance.

I was aware of the dangers and I did read one book called The Boys In The Cave. A coach took his soccer team, 12 boys into a cave in Thailand and it flooded while they were in there. Great book if anyone like reading that sort of thing.

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Jul 13, 2021 22:51:05   #
JBRIII
 
JustJill wrote:
Thanks everyone. I enjoyed reading what everyone had to say. I did take what I learned with me, even though my hike was pretty low key. The caves were in a State Park in Iowa. The path was well lit. I tried both with flash and without out. I am not real happy with my photos. I did not see any cool photo opportunities inside the cave. I did not get adventurous and enter the caves that I had to crawl through the entrance.

I was aware of the dangers and I did read one book called The Boys In The Cave. A coach took his soccer team, 12 boys into a cave in Thailand and it flooded while they were in there. Great book if anyone like reading that sort of thing.
Thanks everyone. I enjoyed reading what everyone h... (show quote)


My wife and I loved Mammoth caves. Would spend a week doing as many tours a day as we could fit in. With respect to safety, one story was one day all tours found rangers flooding in to check on them. ? Why. Apparently there was an earthquake which no one in the cave even noticed.

Then you got tickets each day, we loved getting there at openning, getting tickets, planning the next day, only reservation was for 6 hr wild cave tour by acetylene lamps I believe. Now all electronic reservations, I believe, half the fun gone.

If you like caves, there are many only summer tours at Mammoth offering very unique offerings. Also, a good number of private caves in the area. Only the wild tour gets into really tight spots lots of knee and belly crawing, can not be bigger than 45" around I believe, left meat on that one.

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Jul 13, 2021 23:00:42   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Thank God I did not know this when I was a kid.
I explored caves and climbed cliffs, no ropes or gear, for years and lived.
Oh yes, and dozens of old abandoned mines.
Had I known this I would likely not have survived.


Thank the heavens yes. You are lucky.
Having survived those adventure does not make it safe or alright to be there alone.

But surely you had fun and gained a lot of memorable moments

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Jul 14, 2021 02:21:51   #
HatsuoHiga Loc: Hawaii
 
The Shuri castle in Okinawa burned down in 2019, not 2119.

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Jul 14, 2021 06:27:33   #
roxiemarty Loc: Florida
 
JustJill wrote:
Thanks everyone. I enjoyed reading what everyone had to say. I did take what I learned with me, even though my hike was pretty low key. The caves were in a State Park in Iowa. The path was well lit. I tried both with flash and without out. I am not real happy with my photos. I did not see any cool photo opportunities inside the cave. I did not get adventurous and enter the caves that I had to crawl through the entrance.

I was aware of the dangers and I did read one book called The Boys In The Cave. A coach took his soccer team, 12 boys into a cave in Thailand and it flooded while they were in there. Great book if anyone like reading that sort of thing.
Thanks everyone. I enjoyed reading what everyone h... (show quote)

Dont dispair...........just plan your attack next time you have the opportunity to go inside a cave. I always go for the self guided tours, and as I said, it took alot of trial and error before I finally got Images I was happy with.

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Jul 14, 2021 09:26:00   #
JustJill Loc: Iowa
 
JBRIII wrote:
My wife and I loved Mammoth caves. Would spend a week doing as many tours a day as we could fit in. With respect to safety, one story was one day all tours found rangers flooding in to check on them. ? Why. Apparently there was an earthquake which no one in the cave even noticed.

Then you got tickets each day, we loved getting there at openning, getting tickets, planning the next day, only reservation was for 6 hr wild cave tour by acetylene lamps I believe. Now all electronic reservations, I believe, half the fun gone.

If you like caves, there are many only summer tours at Mammoth offering very unique offerings. Also, a good number of private caves in the area. Only the wild tour gets into really tight spots lots of knee and belly crawing, can not be bigger than 45" around I believe, left meat on that one.
My wife and I loved Mammoth caves. Would spend a w... (show quote)


Actually that does sound interesting. My sister from Phoenix AZ and I take a yearly vacation and decided to start visiting national parks. Last year it was The Smoky Mountains this year we are going to New River Gorge. That could be a possibility for next year.

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