EVs Are the Future
Jul 6, 2021 08:47:58 #
Here you EV fanatics go.
This is a picture of a diesel car charging station that are popping up everywhere. Here's an interesting fact.... That 350kw generator uses 12 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, and it takes 3 hours to fully charge a car to get 200 miles. That's 36 GALLONS for 200 MILES!!! 5.6 miles per gallon
This is a picture of a diesel car charging station that are popping up everywhere. Here's an interesting fact.... That 350kw generator uses 12 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, and it takes 3 hours to fully charge a car to get 200 miles. That's 36 GALLONS for 200 MILES!!! 5.6 miles per gallon
Jul 6, 2021 08:54:54 #
EVs are just not ready for prime time, yet.
--Bob
--Bob
Architect1776 wrote:
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Jul 6, 2021 08:59:55 #
rmalarz wrote:
EVs are just not ready for prime time, yet.
--Bob
--Bob
The rest of the world is rapidly moving to hydrogen leaving the USA behind.
Yes, they have EVs as well but look at their research and now thousands of long haul trucks all going hydrogen today it will soon have the infrastructure to support autos with a couple of minutes to fill rather than hours.
Jul 6, 2021 09:19:32 #
Pet Rocks and Mood Rings are two earlier fads that failed to attract serious attention. Electricity travels, and that makes it a poor candidate for a transport fuel. A fuel for transportation has to be transportable. If it cannot be stored it has no use as a fuel. Electricity, as transport fuel has been a resounding failure for over 100 years and nothing has been done to change that fact. Tesla? Just more empty storage batteries to clog the landfills. Make electricity more transportable and you may have an alternative fuel source. Until then Musk is simply selling snake oil.
Jul 6, 2021 09:23:16 #
Jul 6, 2021 09:28:00 #
Architect1776 wrote:
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This is an excellent representation of the EV folly.
Jul 6, 2021 10:05:05 #
Architect1776 wrote:
The rest of the world is rapidly moving to hydrogen leaving the USA behind.
Yes, they have EVs as well but look at their research and now thousands of long haul trucks all going hydrogen today it will soon have the infrastructure to support autos with a couple of minutes to fill rather than hours.
Yes, they have EVs as well but look at their research and now thousands of long haul trucks all going hydrogen today it will soon have the infrastructure to support autos with a couple of minutes to fill rather than hours.
Hydrogen is not a source of energy but just a way of converting electrical energy generated by either splitting atoms or burning fossil fuel into a different form. It takes electricity to separate hydrogen and oxygen from water. Either burning the hydrogen or using it in a fuel cell simply re-combines it with oxygen, generating the same amount of energy (or less, given friction, unused heat, etc.) used to get the hydrogen in the first place. Hydrogen would be useful if there was a really cheap source of electricity to produce it. I haven't heard of anything like that...
Jul 6, 2021 12:22:46 #
sb wrote:
Hydrogen is not a source of energy but just a way ... (show quote)
So, if Hydrogen isn't useful because of the amount of electricity it takes, then how are electric cars useful as they take a massive amount of electricity as well and take much longer to recharge so that travel can continue. EVs didn't make any sense when they were invented in the late 1800s and they still don't make any sense now unless you live in a city purchase the EV with government subsidies and charge the EV at a free government placed charging station.
The rest of us who can't reasonably be expected to use them are subsidizing the cost of EVs, which are almost entirely being bought my people with money.
Jul 6, 2021 13:37:56 #
sb wrote:
Hydrogen is not a source of energy but just a way ... (show quote)
Then you have not been following the news in the rest of the world as there are now thousands of hydrogen powered semi trucks on the roads outside the USA and planes are being developed to run on hydrogen. Once the trucks get the infrastructure going cars will follow and plugging in for an hour or two will become the joke of the century.
Jul 6, 2021 13:42:15 #
btbg wrote:
So, if Hydrogen isn't useful because of the amount... (show quote)
The making of hydrogen science outside of the USA has advanced way beyond the primitive methods used here.
Jul 6, 2021 18:02:05 #
I'm sure all the farmers in this country are looking forward to replacing their gasoline-powered farm equipment with battery powered ones. They can take a four hour siesta while their combine's batteries are recharging.
Jul 6, 2021 18:48:06 #
Here is the article the photo is from.
It turns out that the most efficient car they tested, A BMW 3 series, use about the same amount of diesel charging as it would have if it had a diesel engine. So then factor in the cost of the generator, the extra cost of the electric car vs the diesel unit, and the infrastructure to mount and protect a unit like this if it was out in the middle of nowhere in the US vs Australia, I think you get the picture. Plus who wants t stop for that length of time to charge?
Conclusion: EVs in the outback are stupid, stupid, stupid.
https://thedriven.io/2018/12/14/diesel-charge-evs-remote-locations-greener-than-you-think/
It turns out that the most efficient car they tested, A BMW 3 series, use about the same amount of diesel charging as it would have if it had a diesel engine. So then factor in the cost of the generator, the extra cost of the electric car vs the diesel unit, and the infrastructure to mount and protect a unit like this if it was out in the middle of nowhere in the US vs Australia, I think you get the picture. Plus who wants t stop for that length of time to charge?
Conclusion: EVs in the outback are stupid, stupid, stupid.
https://thedriven.io/2018/12/14/diesel-charge-evs-remote-locations-greener-than-you-think/
Jul 6, 2021 22:25:00 #
Architect1776 wrote:
The making of hydrogen science outside of the USA has advanced way beyond the primitive methods used here.
I'm well aware of that. There was a man in the U.S. who developed a hydrogen converter in the back of a pickup that he used to power his vehicle in the 1070s. It was too big to be effective, but everything has miniaturized since then. That could have been also, but the powers that be decided they would rather have electric vehicles that don't work worth crap instead of technology that is better and more efficient, as well as less expensive.
Jul 6, 2021 22:27:01 #
InfiniteISO wrote:
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That's the problem I have been trying to tell people about for months. The western U.S. has the same problems as Australia. Vast distances and no charging stations.
Jul 7, 2021 08:46:26 #
You obviously did not read the article. The average charge time per vehicle was just slightly over one hour. It did not take three hours. Diesel fuel usage was around 12 litres per hour, not 12 gallons per hour.
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