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Jun 29, 2021 12:09:32   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
jaymatt wrote:
I’m looking for a bridge camera to replace my Canon SX60, something that will not break the bank, say around $600-700+-. What I am really interested in is the noise factor because all my SX60 images are grainy, even down at 100 ISO. Do any of you have experience with what I am looking for and have suggestions that might be useful to me? I have read the reviews, but none of them mention noise or grain.


Many bridge cameras have a 1" sensor. Sony's RX10 and RX100 lines use a 1" sensor, and there are others.

With a larger sensor you will see gains in image quality but at the cost of a shorter lens, generally. Still, many of them have a surprising range, such as 24-600mm.

Personally I don't expect a clean image from many of Canon's large sensors, so I wouldn't expect great IQ from a small Canon sensor either. Olympus point & shoot cameras, with their tiny sensors, do surprisingly well, but I don't think Oly offers anything in a 1" sensor.

I am also in the market for a bridge camera. I'm leaning toward the RX10-iv, but it's rather pricy. Also, I prefer the smaller size of the RX100 series, so I'm torn between zoom range and compact size. Either way, I know the image quality is very good, much better than bridge cameras using ~1/2" sensors.

Here are a couple of places you can look for more info. The first is a comprehensive list at DPReview:
https://www.dpreview.com/products/search/cameras#criterias=SpecsSensorSize&paramSpecsSensorSize=OneInch

And this list is two years old, but it's a good source from a reputable B&H:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/buying-guide/cameras-with-1-inch-imaging-sensors#:~:text=%20Cameras%20with%201-Inch%20Imaging%20Sensors%20%201

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Jun 29, 2021 12:32:48   #
Besperus Loc: Oregon
 
Switch to film. Digitize the film and get remarkable images. Problem being ISO is limited. I use two Olympus “bridge” cameras from time to time. One has a 35 to 180 reach the other 28 to 110. Cheap too! Got each for less than $50.

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Jun 29, 2021 13:21:20   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
jaymatt wrote:
...because all my SX60 images are grainy, even down at 100 ISO. ..

I am surprised to hear there is enough noise at ISO 100 to be objectionable, even with a 1/2.3" sensor. However, if it is a problem, the best bet is a larger sensor with similar pixel count. Since you are interested in a bridge camera, I suspect (please confirm) that zoom range is important.

There is a compromise to be made of sensor size (and, hence, noise level) vs. zoom range. The next step up is a 1" sensor. There are even Micro 4/3 (MFT) and APS-C non interchangeable lens cameras, but their zoom range is more limited.

I strongly suggest staying with a camera that has a viewfinder in addition to the viewing screen, not all have them. The Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ1000 II ($748) comes to mind. Its sister model DMC-FZ2500 has a greater zoom range but is slightly above your budget.

A list of 1" bridge cameras is :https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/Point-Shoot-Digital-Cameras/ci/8612/N/4288586279?filters=fct_camera-type_4056%3Asuperzoom-bridge%2Cfct_sensor-size_3087%3A1in

If you are willing to go to potentially more limited zoom range, here are the 1", MFT, and APS-C compact cameras:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/Point-Shoot-Digital-Cameras/ci/8612/N/4288586279?filters=fct_camera-type_4056%3Aadvanced-compacts%2Cfct_sensor-size_3087%3A1in%7Caps-c%7Cfour-thirds
The only Canon I can think of with a viewfinder is the PowerShot G5 X Mark II, but it has a limited zoom range and is above your price range.

I suspect that if noise is that important, the largest sensor in a compact is called for; then check these with MFT or APS-C. Most are above your price range:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/Point-Shoot-Digital-Cameras/ci/8612/N/4288586279?filters=fct_camera-type_4056%3Aadvanced-compacts%2Cfct_sensor-size_3087%3Aaps-c%7Cfour-thirds

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Jun 29, 2021 14:04:58   #
druthven
 
Lumix DMC FX-1000 B&H used $589 slight scuff marks to $639 Condition 10, like new.

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Jun 29, 2021 14:27:59   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
Gene51 wrote:
If you intend to print your images, then I'd pass on a bridge camera. If most of your images are shared on social media, a solid 1" sensor camera (not smaller) is an excellent choice. I shoot full frame Nikon, but for a bridge camera I use a Sony RX10M4. Earlier models are available for less, as are the RX100 which is a pocketable point and shoot using the same sensor, and a little cheaper.


I graduated from my Canon SX50 to the Sony HX400. And for even better photos I really like my RX100. The RX series 10 and 100 beat the Canon SX hands down.

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Jun 29, 2021 16:18:35   #
Seabastes
 
jaymatt wrote:
I’m looking for a bridge camera to replace my Canon SX60, something that will not break the bank, say around $600-700+-. What I am really interested in is the noise factor because all my SX60 images are grainy, even down at 100 ISO. Do any of you have experience with what I am looking for and have suggestions that might be useful to me? I have read the reviews, but none of them mention noise or grain.


I have become a real fan of Panasonic Lumix cameras with rangefinders. I have two gx85 cameras. This is a discontinued model that sells for about $700 with two lenses. When I bought mine the price was about $500 but has gone back up.

There are other models to consider in the Panasonic family.

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Jun 29, 2021 17:29:32   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
tramsey wrote:
Panasonic Lumix DMC FX1000 a little long in the tooth but it has a good lens, a long zoom and a one inch sensor - great camera


I bought a brand new FZ1000M2 a couple months ago, from Canada, for right around $750.00. Great camera.

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Jun 29, 2021 17:46:47   #
11bravo
 
I have the original FZ1000 model. Have used it for 6 years now. If I was to buy now, I'd buy the FZ1000M2, but can't justify the expense for the additional features. My travel companion likes her FZ300 (smaller sensor, longer reach). Light enough for me to carry up and down mountains all day - fits in a shoulder bag with room for extra batteries. Both have EVF's along with a fully articulated LCD (for the dreaded selfie, but also useful for "around the corner" shots, low level, over the crowd shots, etc.).

Samples here of both posted in this thread:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/tpr?p=12341824&t=701555

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Jun 29, 2021 18:57:16   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
tramsey wrote:
Panasonic Lumix DMC FX1000 a little long in the tooth but it has a good lens, a long zoom and a one inch sensor - great camera


FZ1000?

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Jun 29, 2021 19:38:45   #
wetreed
 
Since Nikon makes the best cameras, you should consider the Nikon P1000

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Jun 29, 2021 20:46:22   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
wetreed wrote:
Since Nikon makes the best cameras, you should consider the Nikon P1000


The P1000 is a big camera, really big.

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Jun 29, 2021 20:56:44   #
Phil67
 
Check the reviews on Panasonic DMC-FZ300. It was rated as best travel camera. Bought one from Amazon last April and very happy with close-ups and zoom images. I can print as large as 11”X17” on my Epson and the prints are great! It is also weatherproof. This might work for you depending on how critical you are and if you sell your prints as I do. Image stability is also a big plus with this camera.

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Jun 29, 2021 22:03:24   #
wetreed
 
Yes it is.

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Jun 30, 2021 01:18:40   #
dmagett Loc: Albuquerque NM/Sedona AZ
 
jaymatt wrote:
I’m looking for a bridge camera to replace my Canon SX60, something that will not break the bank, say around $600-700+-. What I am really interested in is the noise factor because all my SX60 images are grainy, even down at 100 ISO. Do any of you have experience with what I am looking for and have suggestions that might be useful to me? I have read the reviews, but none of them mention noise or grain.


I just acquired a Leica V-LUX 114 on eBay...open box, shutter count 23 for less than $450.
Talk about a steal! It is incredibly sharp. It will replace my old Lumix FZ50 bridge camera.
It is a great compliment for my Sony mirrorless.

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Jun 30, 2021 14:06:40   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Phil67 wrote:
Check the reviews on Panasonic DMC-FZ300. It was rated as best travel camera. Bought one from Amazon last April and very happy with close-ups and zoom images. I can print as large as 11”X17” on my Epson and the prints are great! It is also weatherproof. This might work for you depending on how critical you are and if you sell your prints as I do. Image stability is also a big plus with this camera.


Seems very similar to the DCZS80, which has more pixels and greater zoom range but not as wide aperture.

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