Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
How Do You Learn PS and LR ?
Page <prev 2 of 5 next> last>>
Jun 20, 2021 07:38:50   #
bikerguy
 
When I started using LR & PS I watched (and continue to watch) Matt Kloskowski, Anthiny Morganti, Piximperfect, Phlern and Photoshop Cafe. Each has strengths and weaknesses as far as their teaching methods. Watch some and find whose methods work for you and check out others periodically as you learn more about the programs.
As others have said you can stop and watch it again. I also have "created' my own knowledge book that I can refer to without searching out a YouTube that I watched a year ago.

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 09:33:50   #
jlocke Loc: Austin, TX
 
There are lots of free videos on YouTube and such. Something I subscribe to (not free) is Photobacks. They sell template packages, but more than that, they have a subsection called "Pixel U" (https://www.photobacks.com/pixelu) where they post all kinds of videos from the basics to demonstrations of specific techniques from professionals who use Photoshop all the time. It's $97/year, but I think it's worth every penny. And if you want to purchase any of their templates, as a member you automatically get 50% off.

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 09:44:01   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
First, Lightroom and Photoshop are both very complex software. They are not designed nor intended to be used by a complete novice. Even just an hour spent with some 'getting started' video training will save multiple hours of frustration.

The ongoing feature updates to the subscription model, for the most part, doesn't change the fundamental design and flow of each software. Books that cover the software since 2015 (LR6 or CS6) are still 90% exactly the same as the software operates today in 2021. You're not wasting time with older titles, if printed training is desired.

But, free video-based training is your best option. Adobe has a wealth of videos in their training and support section on their website, this is just hard to find as the titles are intended for subscribed customers. There are numerous other authors. Many like Anthony Morganti, easily found on u-tube.

Lightroom is the less complex of the two titles. You should focus on one title, not both. The two titles complement each other, but are very different in their interface and usage. Consider LR as your initial area of focus and training. Consider too starting with only your newest work in LR, don't get caught up with existing images until you have about 6-month's experience and understanding of LR.

Start your own electronic notes, saving the URLs to those titles you like and find useful. Beyond a book, don't pay for anything until you've exhausted all the free options. You really just need maybe 2 to 6-hours of total training, coupled with hands-on work in the tools with your images, to be up and running independently and successfully.

A google like this will get you started: Lightroom getting started video training

Use the pause and rewind / replay tools to watch a video until you understand what is being said or done. If you don't like the author, make a note of it and return to your google results set and move onto the next video from someone different.
First, Lightroom and Photoshop are both very compl... (show quote)


Excellent advice!

Reply
 
 
Jun 20, 2021 10:09:12   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
robertjerl wrote:
They teach it at Hogwarts in the advanced "Black Magic" courses.

Don't bother calling Security, I will show myself out.

OK, more seriously, if I can't figure something out I search Adobe's Help and Support on line. And there are some who keep up with the new features like the "Lightroom Queen".


Perfect!
But how does one enroll?
I checked my crystal ball and it clouded up!

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 10:14:09   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
wjones8637 wrote:
This is more or less in reply to a thread started recently by jerryc41 posted here to avoid interfering with his chain.

Previously as PS and LR were updated every year or so books were published to help us learn. No with the subscription versions are updated frequently and as far as I can tell no hard copy is being produced. I have tried a few YouTube videos, but found them lacking, thus the title.

Thanks for your input.

Bill


If you're a book fan you will always be behind with new function. I don't know what youtube you are following but I use Anthony Morganti. He has an entire set of well done videos of the basics, advanced and if you sign up for his Email a weekly newsletter with short videos on what gets changed or fixed in the service stream. He covers LR/PS, On1, Luminar, NIK, Topaz etc. The tip his stuff starts at https://iammrphotographer.com/.

Most of the videos are relatively short and devoted to a specific topic such as tools, import etc.

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 10:16:30   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
A number of years ago, after much frustration with Nikon's software products, I made it my mission to learn Lightroom, and I have been a very happy camper ever since. I use Lightroom for 95% of my work and Photoshop for the other 5%. It works well for me and, over time, I have become more and more efficient using this workflow and a hardware add-on called Pallete Gear. I bought a book from Kelby @ Lightroom, but it was when I purchased and watched the video series from Laura Shoe that I really was able to begin my immersion into Lightroom. Best $100 I ever spent! It is critical to have a solid plan for naming and storing files BEFORE you begin using Lightroom going foreword. Best of luck.

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 10:22:47   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
The version updates haven't altered the program so dramatically that all previously created tutorials and instructional books are rendered useless. You can still learn plenty of useful stuff from them; simply inform yourself about the new features that have been added to further supplement your knowledge.

Reply
 
 
Jun 20, 2021 10:48:16   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
wjones8637 wrote:
This is more or less in reply to a thread started recently by jerryc41 posted here to avoid interfering with his chain.

Previously as PS and LR were updated every year or so books were published to help us learn. No with the subscription versions are updated frequently and as far as I can tell no hard copy is being produced. I have tried a few YouTube videos, but found them lacking, thus the title.

Thanks for your input.

Bill


Practice, practice, practice!

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 10:51:36   #
photoman43
 
I do mostly nature photography and if I were to use Adobe products (and I have) I would use Adobe Camera Raw and Bridge for 95% of my work. I do not need a catalogue so I do not need Lightroom, but that is me. ACR is the same basic engine in LR and PS.

I suggest you check out the videos offered by Tim Grey Learning. They cost $ but I found them worth the price.

https://www.greylearning.com/

I also agree that buying a book or two is a good idea as the basics have not changed that much. Reading a book will give you a very good overview and help you decide what particular Adobe product works best for you. Get more than one as each author has his/her own approach on how to explain the software.

If you have a friend who uses and knows Adobe products get with him and explore options that work for you.

Read up on workflows for using Adobe products. Most of my friends who use Adobe products use non Adobe programs to Ingest images and cull them before moving them into Adobe, especially Lightroom.

Also check out the videos and ebooks offered by Jason Odell.

http://luminescentphoto.com/blog/eshop/guides-to-adobe-lightroom-photoshop/

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 11:01:22   #
ChrisKet Loc: Orange, CA
 
The first thing you should focus on is understanding how Lightroom’s catalog system works before you dig into the functionality of developing your photos. I watched a couple of presenters during the recent Lightroom Summit week that were very good at explaining the basics in less than an hour each, do an internet search for them: Theresa Jackson and Sean Bagshaw. Creative Live also offers free videos on occasion; I’ve learned quite a bit from watching Ben Wilmore.

Lightroom is a terrific app once you understand how it works; best of luck on your learning journey!

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 11:19:48   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
steveo52 wrote:
I originally learned LR from Lynda.com. It’s now owned by LinkedIn prices were raised too. When I was learning it I had a company paid subscription to Lynda.com for other topics but just so happened I had photography as a hobby so it worked out.


Chris Orwig has a great class on LightRoom Classic in Lynda. Many times your local library has a subscription you can use. Also often you can take a free class from your local community college on either or both and they too will have access to Lynda as well m

Reply
 
 
Jun 20, 2021 11:20:34   #
rcurrie Loc: Kingsport, TN
 
Get a good tutorial. An excellent one for Lightroom is by Laura Shoe. She sends emails when there is an update explaining it. Go to laurashoe.com

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 12:32:38   #
pickypicture
 
I hired a college student who was a teachers aid in lightroom and photoshop. He is amazing. He was coming to my home prior to covid. Now I let him in my computer to teach me. Call on any friends you know who can help. I just could not learn fast enough or thoroughly enough with other sources. Hands on with a instructor works better for me.

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 12:52:05   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
wjones8637 wrote:
This is more or less in reply to a thread started recently by jerryc41 posted here to avoid interfering with his chain.

Previously as PS and LR were updated every year or so books were published to help us learn. No with the subscription versions are updated frequently and as far as I can tell no hard copy is being produced. I have tried a few YouTube videos, but found them lacking, thus the title.

Thanks for your input.

Bill


Simply search online for videos, instructional materials or work away at it on your own. There are zillions of "help/instructional" sources for this software. Having said this, many people have traded up from PS to much easier software and seem to be happy with the results. Cheers!

Reply
Jun 20, 2021 13:39:57   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
First, Lightroom and Photoshop are both very complex software. They are not designed nor intended to be used by a complete novice. Even just an hour spent with some 'getting started' video training will save multiple hours of frustration.

The ongoing feature updates to the subscription model, for the most part, doesn't change the fundamental design and flow of each software. Books that cover the software since 2015 (LR6 or CS6) are still 90% exactly the same as the software operates today in 2021. You're not wasting time with older titles, if printed training is desired.

But, free video-based training is your best option. Adobe has a wealth of videos in their training and support section on their website, this is just hard to find as the titles are intended for subscribed customers. There are numerous other authors. Many like Anthony Morganti, easily found on u-tube.

Lightroom is the less complex of the two titles. You should focus on one title, not both. The two titles complement each other, but are very different in their interface and usage. Consider LR as your initial area of focus and training. Consider too starting with only your newest work in LR, don't get caught up with existing images until you have about 6-month's experience and understanding of LR.

Start your own electronic notes, saving the URLs to those titles you like and find useful. Beyond a book, don't pay for anything until you've exhausted all the free options. You really just need maybe 2 to 6-hours of total training, coupled with hands-on work in the tools with your images, to be up and running independently and successfully.

A google like this will get you started: Lightroom getting started video training

Use the pause and rewind / replay tools to watch a video until you understand what is being said or done. If you don't like the author, make a note of it and return to your google results set and move onto the next video from someone different.
First, Lightroom and Photoshop are both very compl... (show quote)


While videos are nice to see what can be done I find them mostly worthless to actually do anything. Many things in Lightroom and most things in Photoshop require multiple steps. I cannot keep up a step at a time and sometimes the presenters whip by something important so I miss it.

I most prefer the Kelby books that take you step by step to results. Many others go feature by feature, which doesn’t help me much.

I agree Lightroom is much easier to learn and use vs. the complex interface of Photoshop that puts things all over in odd places.

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 5 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.