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Jun 17, 2021 12:15:14   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
...the American experiment in self governance will end. Hard to know what will replace it, byut my guess is a Turkey-style thugaucracy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/17/secret-recording-florida-republican-threat-hit-squad-494976

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-two-party-system-is-wrecking-american-democracy/

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Jun 17, 2021 12:27:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Bazbo wrote:
...the American experiment in self governance will end. Hard to know what will replace it, byut my guess is a Turkey-style thugaucracy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/17/secret-recording-florida-republican-threat-hit-squad-494976

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-two-party-system-is-wrecking-american-democracy/


That is the goal of all democrats.
Balkanize the country then take full control of all aspects of our lives, (Chinese Flu Hoax was a dry run that succeeded way beyond their expectations), then make this a pure socialist/communist state.
MLK would be very upset at the whole democrat agenda of race separation and making color of skin the only parameter to judge and act on.

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Jun 17, 2021 12:32:37   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Architect1776 wrote:
That is the goal of all democrats.
Balkanize the country then take full control of all aspects of our lives, (Chinese Flu Hoax was a dry run that succeeded way beyond their expectations), then make this a pure socialist/communist state.
MLK would be very upset at the whole democrat agenda of race separation and making color of skin the only parameter to judge and act on.


Thanks for making my point. I will consider you as Exhibit A.

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Jun 17, 2021 12:53:28   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Architect1776 wrote:
That is the goal of all democrats.
Balkanize the country then take full control of all aspects of our lives, (Chinese Flu Hoax was a dry run that succeeded way beyond their expectations), then make this a pure socialist/communist state.
MLK would be very upset at the whole democrat agenda of race separation and making color of skin the only parameter to judge and act on.


Spot on

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Jun 17, 2021 12:55:46   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Bazbo wrote:
Thanks for making my point. I will consider you as Exhibit A.



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Jun 17, 2021 13:08:58   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
And again history repeats itself

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Jun 17, 2021 13:33:54   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Democracies trend toward a social structure of intolerance and censorship, as we see today in the United States, going against liberal democracy.

The ancients observed that democracy could become tyranny by way of leadership offering security (AKA safety and ubiquitous cameras) and bread (AKA welfare) over freedom. In fairness, the ancients did not know liberal democracy as we know it in our time.

Another source has noted the movement of the U.S. presidency evolving to a Caesar-ship, wherein one individual holds all power in his hands, with the weakness of the Congress fostering this outcome. This condition of leadership does not mean dictatorship but all power residing in one individual.

On the other side, the contemporary scholar Francis Fukuyama maintains that liberal democracy represents the perfection of human governance, and its culmination worldwide appears inevitable.

Aristotle posed this question as to human political organization: "How shall man govern himself?"
Bazbo wrote:
...the American experiment in self governance will end. Hard to know what will replace it, byut my guess is a Turkey-style thugaucracy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/17/secret-recording-florida-republican-threat-hit-squad-494976

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-two-party-system-is-wrecking-american-democracy/

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Jun 17, 2021 13:41:51   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Bazbo wrote:
Thanks for making my point. I will consider you as Exhibit A.


LOL.... It is liberals who stop speaking to family and friends over political beliefs and that has been the case for some time now..... The guy in the Politico article certainly is not representative of republicans but it is not at all surprising that you would blow that horn, maybe he will get arrested for making threats, that would be fitting, but the very worst outcome would be that an idiot like that become elected...

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Jun 18, 2021 10:56:07   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Bazbo wrote:
...the American experiment in self governance will end. Hard to know what will replace it, byut my guess is a Turkey-style thugaucracy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/17/secret-recording-florida-republican-threat-hit-squad-494976

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-two-party-system-is-wrecking-american-democracy/


That's one hot Conservative.



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Jun 18, 2021 14:20:27   #
captivecookie Loc: Washington state
 
Bazbo wrote:
...the American experiment in self governance will end. Hard to know what will replace it, byut my guess is a Turkey-style thugaucracy.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/17/secret-recording-florida-republican-threat-hit-squad-494976

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-two-party-system-is-wrecking-american-democracy/


I believe this did happen, and find it alarming. Sounds like a man who is willing to commit murder to get what he wants in life.

I have no doubt that he isn't the first or last to act like this. From both parties, as well. Many people try to make things go their way whether it's legal or not. For instance, the nurse activist broke the law by recording the man speak without his permission. According to this story, to get all this on tape, she had to start recording before hearing the alarming words, right? She was trying to illegally obtain dirt on him to get what she wanted, right? She got much more than she thought she would, so turned it in rather than sitting on it and leaking the dirt, because she was worried she'd get in trouble if she said nothing and the victim was assassinated.

However, is this the sort of thing that will destroy our government and replace it with something else? I don't think it's that apparent. I'm pretty sure it is against the law to talk about planning to kill someone, because that sounds reasonable to me. At the very least it should be the final nail in the coffin of a political campaign and/or career.

I think there is much more of a possibility that LEGAL actions will destroy our government and replace it. Legal actions such as changing the constitution to end our right to speak freely against our government, to end our right to protect ourselves with guns, etc. Legal actions such as suppressing news so that one party will most likely win an election. Legal actions such as letting anybody vote anywhere with no attempt to check identity. If these things become legal, we are much more likely to see an end to our current government and the emergence of something new. Or old.

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Jun 18, 2021 15:47:50   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The American experiment in democratic/republic form of government is continuing it's demise. It was began in the early 1900's by followers of Marx and Engals. among others. President Wilson was a prominant leader of the movement. Todays progressive/liberals have taken control of the educational system (part of the original plan) and are going about the indoctrination of our children. Concepts such as CRT, Equity and Cancel Culture are teaching the young that America, as founded. is a bad place and must be changed.Whites, because of the color of their skin. are automayically guilty of "White Suopemacy" and are therefore racist. UNLESS all this is ended the country will become a socialist/communist dictatorship. Those progressives ignore the basic fact that the US (for all it' flaws) has brought more wealth to more people (most of the population) than has any other country in the planets history. Am I overstating the dangers?? I truly hope so.

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Jun 18, 2021 17:37:42   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I believe the connivance of the news media workers at the behest of their bosses who operate under the thumb of the plutocrats will play a role in the downfall of the America way, via bias, lies, propaganda, and alarmism.
boberic wrote:
The American experiment in democratic/republic form of government is continuing it's demise. It was began in the early 1900's by followers of Marx and Engals. among others. President Wilson was a prominant leader of the movement. Todays progressive/liberals have taken control of the educational system (part of the original plan) and are going about the indoctrination of our children. Concepts such as CRT, Equity and Cancel Culture are teaching the young that America, as founded. is a bad place and must be changed.Whites, because of the color of their skin. are automayically guilty of "White Suopemacy" and are therefore racist. UNLESS all this is ended the country will become a socialist/communist dictatorship. Those progressives ignore the basic fact that the US (for all it' flaws) has brought more wealth to more people (most of the population) than has any other country in the planets history. Am I overstating the dangers?? I truly hope so.
The American experiment in democratic/republic for... (show quote)

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Jun 18, 2021 17:45:30   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Never happened here

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Jun 18, 2021 18:07:52   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
boberic wrote:
The American experiment in democratic/republic form of government is continuing it's demise. It was began in the early 1900's by followers of Marx and Engals. among others. President Wilson was a prominant leader of the movement. Todays progressive/liberals have taken control of the educational system (part of the original plan) and are going about the indoctrination of our children. Concepts such as CRT, Equity and Cancel Culture are teaching the young that America, as founded. is a bad place and must be changed.Whites, because of the color of their skin. are automayically guilty of "White Suopemacy" and are therefore racist. UNLESS all this is ended the country will become a socialist/communist dictatorship. Those progressives ignore the basic fact that the US (for all it' flaws) has brought more wealth to more people (most of the population) than has any other country in the planets history. Am I overstating the dangers?? I truly hope so.
The American experiment in democratic/republic for... (show quote)


I don't believe you are overstating it. We've always heard how in Communist China children are indoctrinated as soon as they're old enough to pick up a book and how they have more loyalty to the government than to their own parents. I see this country moving in that direction as our children are being brainwashed in school. I wonder how much longer it will be before every right leaning TV network and newspaper publisher will be shut down. I believe the Democrats will strive to eliminate any opposing views by any measure possible.

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