M 4/3 envy?
May 21, 2021 11:31:31 #
DanCSF
Loc: SA Bay Area CA
Ok here's a morning vent....
I've got friends who love their Oly's and I will admit to liking the OM-1 in the day....and they are great camera's...but what is it about m4/3 shooter who always have to qualify their lenses with the statement "Shot it with a ###mm lens but it's really a ### in Full Frame". I for one, don't care to hear about the ff equivalency. I just like the image. On recent shoot with another Oly shooter, he had a new lens and I asked what it was...his answer it's a ###, but really it a ### at FF. Like I cared? a much simpler answer would have been it's a Zuiko blah blad......
Honestly 4/3 shooters be proud of your system no need to alibi your lenses to it's FF equivalent....LOL next time someone ask me about my Forester I'm gonna say it's really a Ranger Rover under the hood....
I've got friends who love their Oly's and I will admit to liking the OM-1 in the day....and they are great camera's...but what is it about m4/3 shooter who always have to qualify their lenses with the statement "Shot it with a ###mm lens but it's really a ### in Full Frame". I for one, don't care to hear about the ff equivalency. I just like the image. On recent shoot with another Oly shooter, he had a new lens and I asked what it was...his answer it's a ###, but really it a ### at FF. Like I cared? a much simpler answer would have been it's a Zuiko blah blad......
Honestly 4/3 shooters be proud of your system no need to alibi your lenses to it's FF equivalent....LOL next time someone ask me about my Forester I'm gonna say it's really a Ranger Rover under the hood....
May 21, 2021 11:36:14 #
DanCSF wrote:
Ok here's a morning vent.... br br I've got frien... (show quote)
That's your friend. BillBurk here uses m4/3 and I don't hear him saying so.
May 21, 2021 11:37:42 #
May 21, 2021 11:49:20 #
the equipment, iso, lighting, camera shake, DOF and viewer perception determines the max size of an acceptable print. If all one wants is 4x 6 prints then who cares. On the other hand a 24 x36 print may require a few more pixels
May 21, 2021 11:53:15 #
fetzler
Loc: North West PA
Indeed, My OLY cameras are great and produce great images. One great feature is the small size of the lenses.
My 100-300mm Panasonic lens is quite small and easily hand holdable. The new OLY 100-400mm with its teleconverters is perhaps truly revolutionary for the bird and nature folks. It is not cheap but much cheaper and lighter than its competition. I use OLY for close up and macros as it gives better results. Incidentally, 8 x 10 view cameras are super for landscapes. It is also true that bad images are taken with all kinds of cameras,
My 100-300mm Panasonic lens is quite small and easily hand holdable. The new OLY 100-400mm with its teleconverters is perhaps truly revolutionary for the bird and nature folks. It is not cheap but much cheaper and lighter than its competition. I use OLY for close up and macros as it gives better results. Incidentally, 8 x 10 view cameras are super for landscapes. It is also true that bad images are taken with all kinds of cameras,
May 21, 2021 13:34:10 #
DanCSF wrote:
Ok here's a morning vent.... br br I've got frien... (show quote)
Maybe, just maybe, its trying to be courteous and informative.... Everyone seems to have succumbed to the full frame craze so its just a simple reminder. If this bothers you just ignore it.... BTW, I would luv a new Forester but my wife's pristine 18 year old LL Bean edition Outback will have to do...
May 21, 2021 13:50:01 #
DanCSF
Loc: SA Bay Area CA
I do ignore it but it's just so darn annoying....LOL....after all when was that last time you hear a full frame shooter say..."yup I have a 75 mm but on the medium frame its really like 150...." LOL anyhow this was a morning pre java rant....now to take my Xanax....;-)
May 21, 2021 15:16:27 #
DanCSF wrote:
I do ignore it but it's just so darn annoying....LOL....after all when was that last time you hear a full frame shooter say..."yup I have a 75 mm but on the medium frame its really like 150...." LOL anyhow this was a morning pre java rant....now to take my Xanax....;-)
Do you know why? Because it's full frame so it's the standard all others are measured by including formats that are larger than it.
May 21, 2021 15:25:57 #
Some people don't like the expression "full frame" but the simple fact is it's becoming part of the universally understood vocabulary through common usage. The list of people who use that expression include camera manufacturers, the media, instructors, reviewers etc. Those that don't like the way that expression is used will find that they're trying to resist an irresistible tide.
The same is true of the "full frame equivalent" focal lengths. They are used to describe the lenses on all sorts of small sensor cameras because it's a widely understood common reference. Since that reference has been in use since the days of film, the current generation of mature photographers (the main influencers) can relate to it, so it's probably going to be around for some time to come.
The same is true of the "full frame equivalent" focal lengths. They are used to describe the lenses on all sorts of small sensor cameras because it's a widely understood common reference. Since that reference has been in use since the days of film, the current generation of mature photographers (the main influencers) can relate to it, so it's probably going to be around for some time to come.
May 21, 2021 15:27:12 #
R.G. wrote:
Some people don't like the expression "full f... (show quote)
I am the one who don't like the term full frame used for the 24x36mm format but since it's called full frame it's the standard.
May 21, 2021 15:29:29 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I am the one who don't like the term full frame used for the 24x36mm format but since it's called full frame it's the standard.
I hope you know how to go with the flow
.May 21, 2021 16:09:54 #
R.G. wrote:
I hope you know how to go with the flow .
.Oh RG that is something I don't want to do. Go with the flow. I was taught by my father not to do so. If I asked him for anything it's OK but if I wanted it because the others have it then I would get severe punishment.
He wanted me to lead not to follow.
May 21, 2021 16:19:19 #
BebuLamar wrote:
......since it's called full frame it's the standard.
I can see the desirability of having commonly understood terminology. I don't have to compromise anything to go along with that idea. If what your father was opposed to was compromising your individuality then I agree with him.
May 22, 2021 06:31:25 #
Just to be clear, you really don't want to compare your Forester to a Range Rover. Your Forester is a blimp...light, practical and filled with Helium. The Range Rover is more of a Zeppelin, cumbersome, flashy and full of Hydrogen just waiting to explode. LOL
May 22, 2021 07:26:56 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Do you know why? Because it's full frame so it's the standard all others are measured by including formats that are larger than it.
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