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Mar 24, 2021 23:32:17   #
Glenn Reiner Loc: Sacramento CA
 
So I went out a bought me a new compact camera (approx $1,000) because I could no longer carry around a DSLR and a collection of lens. Funniest stuff, all I can do is point the camera in the direction of what I think is my memory documented scene. If one is out and about on a sunny day you might as well close your eyes also. I sure enjoy the size (Canon G7X Mk III vs. 6D Mk II) but that is all I can recommend. Aloha, Glenn

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Mar 24, 2021 23:40:23   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
Had to use a camera with only a monitor for work for a number of years. Ended up carrying one of my own cameras which had a viewfinder, though if it had been lost or stolen, I'd have been on my own. Some apparently can make them work - I can't. If it doesn't have a viewfinder, no interest.

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Mar 25, 2021 00:37:49   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
quixdraw wrote:
Had to use a camera with only a monitor for work for a number of years. Ended up carrying one of my own cameras which had a viewfinder, though if it had been lost or stolen, I'd have been on my own. Some apparently can make them work - I can't. If it doesn't have a viewfinder, no interest.


I vote the same. Looking at the back of the camera is only good for inside shooting as far as I am concerned. Out in the sunshine, I find the backside of the camera to be almost worthless. For my inside inspection work at my job, it works great. Most of the shooting is setups and lifts along with macro and micro photos. All of the shooting is soft diffuse lighting or ring lighting. But for my personal photography where I will be spending 90% or more of my time outside, I have got to have a viewfinder to see what is actually happening in the camera. Sunlight just "wipes out" seeing any detail I want to see on the back screen.

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Mar 25, 2021 05:39:17   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
wdross wrote:
I vote the same. Looking at the back of the camera is only good for inside shooting as far as I am concerned. Out in the sunshine, I find the backside of the camera to be almost worthless. For my inside inspection work at my job, it works great. Most of the shooting is setups and lifts along with macro and micro photos. All of the shooting is soft diffuse lighting or ring lighting. But for my personal photography where I will be spending 90% or more of my time outside, I have got to have a viewfinder to see what is actually happening in the camera. Sunlight just "wipes out" seeing any detail I want to see on the back screen.
I vote the same. Looking at the back of the camera... (show quote)


Count me in, too, guys. Have gotten very comfortable composing through a viewfinder over the years ... part of the whole "photographic experience" to me. Camera backs are for chimping or checking optimum focus while digitizing old slides.

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Mar 25, 2021 06:08:04   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Glenn Reiner wrote:
So I went out a bought me a new compact camera (approx $1,000) because I could no longer carry around a DSLR and a collection of lens. Funniest stuff, all I can do is point the camera in the direction of what I think is my memory documented scene. If one is out and about on a sunny day you might as well close your eyes also. I sure enjoy the size (Canon G7X Mk III vs. 6D Mk II) but that is all I can recommend. Aloha, Glenn


First of all, there is not really that much difference between the weight of a DSLR and a mirrorless interchangable lens camera. Unless you got a compact point and shoot, I am assuming that is what you got.
However, if you would have purchased a Sony HX99 for less than 1/2 the price, you would have gotten a POP UP VIEWFINDER, a 24-750 mm Zeiss lens, auto fill flash, HDR, pano's and much much more. Here is a link where you can get one.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1437917-REG/sony_dsc_hx99_b_cyber_shot_dsc_hx99_digital_camera.html?sts=pi&pim=Y
If you need any more helpful info on this camera private message me, I will be glad to set you on the right track.

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Mar 25, 2021 06:23:57   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
My go-to in-pocket 24/7 camera is a simplistic Sony HX 50. This camera has no eye view only a LED screen that like a vampire disappears in the sunlight.

To view the screen in bright sun the addition of a $15 "ENHANCE 3 Inch LCD Sun Shade Screen" and attached to that an eyeglass flip-down magnifying lens, $9 "Carson OcuLens Clip-On Eyeglass Magnifier Set " Both from Amazon. When using one puts their eye to the magnifyer and the screen is then in focus shielded from the sun, being shadowed by both the shield and the camera user's head.

The flip-down magnifyer is epoxyed to the top of the shield and when the child is closed the magnifyer is protected by being against the bottom of the camera. The lens is still moveable only a portion of the clip-on is used-epoxyed [or hot glued] to the shield cover This system works well and I prefer it to the eye view that my Panasonic TZ100 has.

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Mar 25, 2021 07:04:47   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Change is hard for some people...others embrace it. Get used to it, its the only constant in our universe.

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Mar 25, 2021 07:35:41   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
I’ve tried and tried, but I just can’t adapt to a viewing screen. I need a viewfinder.

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Mar 25, 2021 08:05:48   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
You need a sun hood if you can find one.

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Mar 25, 2021 09:26:41   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
billnikon wrote:
First of all, there is not really that much difference between the weight of a DSLR and a mirrorless interchangable lens camera. Unless you got a compact point and shoot, I am assuming that is what you got.
However, if you would have purchased a Sony HX99 for less than 1/2 the price, you would have gotten a POP UP VIEWFINDER, a 24-750 mm Zeiss lens, auto fill flash, HDR, pano's and much much more. Here is a link where you can get one.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1437917-REG/sony_dsc_hx99_b_cyber_shot_dsc_hx99_digital_camera.html?sts=pi&pim=Y
If you need any more helpful info on this camera private message me, I will be glad to set you on the right track.
First of all, there is not really that much differ... (show quote)


Mirrorless Z50 half the weight of D5600 it replaced for me. Its 16-50 lens is maybe 1/3 the weight of the Sigma 17-50 I used on the D5600...and equal image quality.

The above camera has tiny 1/2.3 sensor...more like a phone camera. They are OK in bright light but cannot compare to APSC sensors.

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Mar 25, 2021 10:02:30   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Glenn Reiner wrote:
So I went out a bought me a new compact camera (approx $1,000) because I could no longer carry around a DSLR and a collection of lens. Funniest stuff, all I can do is point the camera in the direction of what I think is my memory documented scene. If one is out and about on a sunny day you might as well close your eyes also. I sure enjoy the size (Canon G7X Mk III vs. 6D Mk II) but that is all I can recommend. Aloha, Glenn


A hat with a large brim might be able to shade the screen, but holding the camera away from your body to shoot is a less stable base than using a view finder with your arms tucked in.

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Mar 25, 2021 10:08:36   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
A few years ago I acquired a Lumix GM5 for its small size, light weight, and EVF. It is a nice camera but M4/3 sensor so not so hot when higher ISOs are needed. Unfortunately Panasonic dropped the EVF on its successor model.

The Z50 with 16-50 is small and light enough, and has APSC sensor. Plus the operation is nearly the same as my Z6. So I’ll be sending the GM5 down the road.

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Mar 25, 2021 10:50:06   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Glenn Reiner wrote:
So I went out a bought me a new compact camera (approx $1,000) because I could no longer carry around a DSLR and a collection of lens. Funniest stuff, all I can do is point the camera in the direction of what I think is my memory documented scene. If one is out and about on a sunny day you might as well close your eyes also. I sure enjoy the size (Canon G7X Mk III vs. 6D Mk II) but that is all I can recommend. Aloha, Glenn


If no viewfinder, EVF or OVF I'm not interested. Otherwise one needs a hood. I have to use a cloth hood for my film view cameras. Not really fun.

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Mar 25, 2021 10:53:07   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
You can have both a small camera and viewfinder. My PenF is a very versatile camera it is small and rather light. It has both a viewfinder and a rear screen that can be concealed when not used. The various OMD cameras are light too. Some of the more junior PEN cameras have an accessory viewfinder attachment too. You can check out the Lumix cameras too.

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Mar 25, 2021 10:55:30   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
IDguy wrote:
Mirrorless Z50 half the weight of D5600 it replaced for me. Its 16-50 lens is maybe 1/3 the weight of the Sigma 17-50 I used on the D5600...and equal image quality.

The above camera has tiny 1/2.3 sensor...more like a phone camera. They are OK in bright light but cannot compare to APSC sensors.


I added a Z50 to my fleet for exactly that reason. It does a great job and is extremely light. I also had a Sony A6400 for a while. It was very light too. Maybe the difference is less pronounced FF to FF.

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