Scruples wrote:
I would like to thank Copladocus and goofybruce For their service. To Wyantry, I hope that you were not insulted by my explanations.
Most of us don’t remember the previous epidemics of the past. I never saw them either, but I did learn them in school. As many of us were trained to deal with this pandemic, were are operating on knowledge that was learned from the past.
Let’s do what we can to prevent the spread of the virus. It is not rocket surgery, everyone. We can win this battle against this virus.
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No offense taken. This is a learning experience for all of us.
Hopefully production of vaccinations will increase to the point where everyone can receive proper vaccination.
Bison Bud wrote:
I am certainly no expert, but have read extensively about coronavirus and Covid-19. While I agree that the protein coat is an integral part of the virus package and the possibility of a mutation causing this protein coat to change is a real consideration, what I have read seems to imply that this is unlikely. All known coronaviruses have this same protein coat and it is one of the characteristics that make them coronaviruses in the first place. Maybe not a great comparison, but when other species such as a bird mutate they may change the size or shape of their beak or their coloration, but they don't change into an entirely different organism and these changes are generally very slow. Anyway, I do agree that the possibility of this protein changing is there, however, let's all hope that this protein is a continuing aspect of coronaviruses and that our current vaccines will remain effective for a long time to come.
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All coronaviruses have spike proteins, but the spikes are not identical. The virus' different RNA codes for their own variety of spike protein. Just as all birds have beaks, but the beaks vary by species and varieties.
If all coronaviruses had the same spikes and hence the same spike proteins, and if the body made antibodies against the spike protein, then an infection with one coronavirus would lead to production of anti-spike antibodies, that would confer immunity against all coronaviruses. Which is not the case.
In fact, the worrisome Covid virus mutations initially detected in the UK and South Africa, are mutations in the spike protein that render the virus to be more virulent.
Antibodies react against specific foreign proteins. If the new Covid mutations cause enough change to the spike proteins, then the antibodies we have from either vaccination or prior Covid infection, may not react against the new mutated spike proteins, and therefor not protect us against the mutated strains.
Bill Emmett wrote:
Over the many years of technologic gains it seems we have lost a good bit of our edge. Trying to give millions of Americans a injection of the Covid Vaccine, one by one seems a bit antiquated. I remember standing in line with hundreds of sailors getting our vaccinations at the inductions station, when a corpsman placed gun type injector against my arm, and shot the vaccine in my arms. What has happened to this technology? That gun system injected not a 100, but a 1000 or so per hour. We were constantly prodded to move along faster, and not stall the line. With that equipment we could keep the line moving throughout the day, with no delay. Make the paperwork available in advance, and filled out before you arrive at the site. Those who need to fill out the papers, have a desk available, but the line goes on. Pop, Pop, goes the gun, 24-7 until all are vaccinated. I'm sure all Viet Nam Vets remember those guns.
Surfwooder
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There were delays,a lot passed out in line. I remember helping drag the guy two in front off to the side so they could continue
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