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Jan 19, 2021 14:38:49   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
soba1 wrote:
Someone that is not beholden to China, corrupted or compromised.
Someone that will put the interest of Americans first.



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Jan 19, 2021 15:11:43   #
FrumCA
 
soba1 wrote:
Someone that is not beholden to China, corrupted or compromised.
Someone that will put the interest of Americans first.


Excellent soba1. Excellent!!

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Jan 19, 2021 16:48:58   #
National Park
 
Bill_de wrote:
Nobody seems to be making any new points.

I don't believe either group (I don't like to say either side) is totally right or totally wrong. So unless or until people realize that for the country's sake they need to work together, I'll have a little fun.

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50+ lawsuits without any merit thrown out of court in a New York minute--many by Trump-appointed judges. Local Republican officials saying there was no fraud. Trump's former AG saying there was no fraud. The Department of Homeland Security saying there was no fraud. I think it is clear who is wrong.

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Jan 19, 2021 16:50:46   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
National Park wrote:
50+ lawsuits without any merit thrown out of court in a New York minute--many by Trump-appointed judges. Local Republican officials saying there was no fraud. Trump's former AG saying there was no fraud. The Department of Homeland Security saying there was no fraud. I think it is clear who is wrong.


How can anyone claim no fraud without investigation? They say it you believe it.m

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Jan 19, 2021 17:13:24   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
letmedance wrote:
How can anyone claim no fraud without investigation? They say it you believe it.m


Rudy Giuliana did the investigation for trump, and handed it to the court. What more do you want?

Giuliana is a very competent lawyer.

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Jan 19, 2021 17:16:47   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Kraken wrote:
Rudy Giuliana did the investigation for trump, and handed it to the court. What more do you want?

Giuliana is a very competent lawyer.



Bless him.



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Jan 19, 2021 17:37:45   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Bill_de wrote:
The group that was capable of stealing the election?

or

The people who were incapable of proving they did it?

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Don't forget. Trump stood basically alone without support from Republicans in the state legislatures nor Conservatives on the courts. In addition he had to fight Big media and Big Tech who fought letting the facts out but injected their own biased opinions. The public was not getting objective facts. Look at the State Legislatures. Who in there would be willing to buck their careers over a president, even though the law was on their side to do so?

The election was stolen in probably a mere six counties. 5 of those 6 were controlled by Democrat machines who had experience, opportunity, and motive to cheat. Also, Election fraud is one of the most difficult and time consuming to prove, even in spite of mounting evidence.

The politics and Swamp is another area which I won't go into. But the election was stolen, no doubt.

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Jan 19, 2021 17:39:39   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Don't forget. Trump stood basically alone without support from Republicans in the state legislatures nor Conservatives on the courts. In addition he had to fight Big media and Big Tech who fought letting the facts out but injected their own biased opinions.

The election was stolen in probably a mere six counties. 5 of those 6 were controlled by Democrat machines who had experience, opportunity, and motive to cheat. Also, Election fraud is one of the most difficult and time consuming to prove, even in spite of mounting evidence.

The politics and Swamp is another area which I won't go into. But the election was stolen, no doubt.
Don't forget. Trump stood basically alone without ... (show quote)


You sez ... "But the election was stolen, no doubt."

Any evidence or just a hunch?

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Jan 19, 2021 17:49:13   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Texcaster wrote:
You sez ... "But the election was stolen, no doubt."

Any evidence or just a hunch?


Are you sure you would know what evidence is if you saw it?

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Jan 19, 2021 17:54:12   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Are you sure you would know what evidence is if you saw it?


I see you are having one hell of a time identifying it.

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Jan 19, 2021 18:01:41   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Are you sure you would know what evidence is if you saw it?


Personally I would recuse myself in the interests of a fair trial. But do try a judge or two or even sixty.

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Jan 19, 2021 18:20:27   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Don't forget. Trump stood basically alone without support from Republicans in the state legislatures nor Conservatives on the courts. In addition he had to fight Big media and Big Tech who fought letting the facts out but injected their own biased opinions. The public was not getting objective facts. Look at the State Legislatures. Who in there would be willing to buck their careers over a president, even though the law was on their side to do so?

The election was stolen in probably a mere six counties. 5 of those 6 were controlled by Democrat machines who had experience, opportunity, and motive to cheat. Also, Election fraud is one of the most difficult and time consuming to prove, even in spite of mounting evidence.

The politics and Swamp is another area which I won't go into. But the election was stolen, no doubt.
Don't forget. Trump stood basically alone without ... (show quote)


Yer such an awesome caricature!

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Jan 19, 2021 18:23:58   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Texcaster wrote:
Personally I would recuse myself in the interests of a fair trial. But do try a judge or two or even sixty.


There are basically 3 types of evidence, Eyewitness testimony (of which there was over 1,000), Physical (such as photos, videos, "unfolded ballots", jump drives), Circumstantial (such as more people voting than registered voters).

Here are just half the instances of how the Dems went about stealing the election. All documented.

1. Fabrication Of Phony Votes Filmed In Atlanta
Surveillance video shows fake manufactured ballots estimated to be in the range of tens of thousands.
View the video — CLICK HERE!

2. Bribes Paid To Voters To Back Biden
On native American reservations in Arizona and Nevada, media reports recount how “native Americans traded their votes for VISA gift cards, jewelry, and other ‘swag.'”

3. Ballots For Trump Were Destroyed
In Arizona, over 75,000 absentee ballots were reported as unreturned when they were actually returned. These absentee ballots were then either lost or destroyed and/or were replaced with blank ballots filled out by election workers or other third parties.

4. Dead Voters Lined Up for Biden
“In Pennsylvania, matching voter rolls to public obituaries found what appears to be over 8,000 confirmed dead voters successfully casting mail-in ballots.”
In Georgia,10,315 ballots were cast by individuals whose name and date of birth matches a GA resident who died in 2020 prior to the election.

5. The Number of “Indefinitely Confined” Voters Tripled
The number of Wisconsin voters who avoided identity checks by claiming to be “indefinitely confined” surged from just under 70,000 voters in 2019 to over 200,000 in 2020. The extra 130,000 “indefinitely confined” voters were five times Biden’s margin in Wisconsin. The Trump campaign contends that “more than 28,000 votes were counted from people who failed to provide identification by abusing the state’s “indefinitely confined” status, including two Biden electors.”

6. Phony Ids Used To Vote
They could bring in confirmation of their DMV appointment in either paper or digital form; and that would be sufficient to allow them to be registered.”

7. Voters Who Had Moved Away Voted Anyway
In Georgia, over 20,000 people appear to have moved out of state. Yet, these clearly ineligible out- of-state voters appeared to have remained on the voter rolls and voted in the 2020 election.

8. Signatures Were Not Verified. In Georgia, the Secretary of State, and future governor, Brian Kemp, both supposedly Republicans, actually agreed to relax signature verification on mailed and absentee ballots so that only one signature verification was required, even though state law required two.

9. Naked Unsigned Ballots Were Counted
Democrat poll workers in Pennsylvania discarding the signed outer envelope in which paper ballots had been sent in. With just the “naked” ballot, there was no way to determine the voter’s eligibility,
While Pennsylvania law requires that the outer envelope be signed in order for the vote to be counted, the Secretary of State, Kathy Boockvar — a staunch Democrat — issued “guidance” saying that naked ballots had to be counted anyway.
Even when the Pennsylvania Supreme Court rejected Boockvar’s “guidance,” she insisted that the naked ballots be counted, and they were included in the tally.
Since polling showed that Biden won over 75% of all mail ballots (while Trump won 80% of in person election day votes), the Boockvar ruling had a lot to do with the Democrats stealing Pennsylvania’s twenty electoral votes.
In Wisconsin, “Nearly 6,000 absentee ballots were counted that were contained in incomplete and altered ballot envelopes that the Wisconsin statutes expressly forbid.”

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Jan 19, 2021 18:38:50   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
There are basically 3 types of evidence, Eyewitness testimony (of which there was over 1,000), Physical (such as photos, videos, "unfolded ballots", jump drives), Circumstantial (such as more people voting than registered voters).

Here are just half the instances of how the Dems went about stealing the election. All documented.

1. Fabrication Of Phony Votes Filmed In Atlanta
Surveillance video shows fake manufactured ballots estimated to be in the range of tens of thousands.
View the video — CLICK HERE!

2. Bribes Paid To Voters To Back Biden
On native American reservations in Arizona and Nevada, media reports recount how “native Americans traded their votes for VISA gift cards, jewelry, and other ‘swag.'”

3. Ballots For Trump Were Destroyed
In Arizona, over 75,000 absentee ballots were reported as unreturned when they were actually returned. These absentee ballots were then either lost or destroyed and/or were replaced with blank ballots filled out by election workers or other third parties.

4. Dead Voters Lined Up for Biden
“In Pennsylvania, matching voter rolls to public obituaries found what appears to be over 8,000 confirmed dead voters successfully casting mail-in ballots.”
In Georgia,10,315 ballots were cast by individuals whose name and date of birth matches a GA resident who died in 2020 prior to the election.

5. The Number of “Indefinitely Confined” Voters Tripled
The number of Wisconsin voters who avoided identity checks by claiming to be “indefinitely confined” surged from just under 70,000 voters in 2019 to over 200,000 in 2020. The extra 130,000 “indefinitely confined” voters were five times Biden’s margin in Wisconsin. The Trump campaign contends that “more than 28,000 votes were counted from people who failed to provide identification by abusing the state’s “indefinitely confined” status, including two Biden electors.”

6. Phony Ids Used To Vote
They could bring in confirmation of their DMV appointment in either paper or digital form; and that would be sufficient to allow them to be registered.”

7. Voters Who Had Moved Away Voted Anyway
In Georgia, over 20,000 people appear to have moved out of state. Yet, these clearly ineligible out- of-state voters appeared to have remained on the voter rolls and voted in the 2020 election.

8. Signatures Were Not Verified. In Georgia, the Secretary of State, and future governor, Brian Kemp, both supposedly Republicans, actually agreed to relax signature verification on mailed and absentee ballots so that only one signature verification was required, even though state law required two.

9. Naked Unsigned Ballots Were Counted
Democrat poll workers in Pennsylvania discarding the signed outer envelope in which paper ballots had been sent in. With just the “naked” ballot, there was no way to determine the voter’s eligibility,
While Pennsylvania law requires that the outer envelope be signed in order for the vote to be counted, the Secretary of State, Kathy Boockvar — a staunch Democrat — issued “guidance” saying that naked ballots had to be counted anyway.
Even when the Pennsylvania Supreme Court rejected Boockvar’s “guidance,” she insisted that the naked ballots be counted, and they were included in the tally.
Since polling showed that Biden won over 75% of all mail ballots (while Trump won 80% of in person election day votes), the Boockvar ruling had a lot to do with the Democrats stealing Pennsylvania’s twenty electoral votes.
In Wisconsin, “Nearly 6,000 absentee ballots were counted that were contained in incomplete and altered ballot envelopes that the Wisconsin statutes expressly forbid.”
There are basically 3 types of evidence, Eyewitnes... (show quote)


GO AWAY.

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Jan 19, 2021 19:01:14   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Fotoartist wrote:
There are basically 3 types of evidence, Eyewitness testimony (of which there was over 1,000), Physical (such as photos, videos, "unfolded ballots", jump drives), Circumstantial (such as more people voting than registered voters).

Here are just half the instances of how the Dems went about stealing the election. All documented.

1. Fabrication Of Phony Votes Filmed In Atlanta
Surveillance video shows fake manufactured ballots estimated to be in the range of tens of thousands.
View the video — CLICK HERE!

2. Bribes Paid To Voters To Back Biden
On native American reservations in Arizona and Nevada, media reports recount how “native Americans traded their votes for VISA gift cards, jewelry, and other ‘swag.'”

3. Ballots For Trump Were Destroyed
In Arizona, over 75,000 absentee ballots were reported as unreturned when they were actually returned. These absentee ballots were then either lost or destroyed and/or were replaced with blank ballots filled out by election workers or other third parties.

4. Dead Voters Lined Up for Biden
“In Pennsylvania, matching voter rolls to public obituaries found what appears to be over 8,000 confirmed dead voters successfully casting mail-in ballots.”
In Georgia,10,315 ballots were cast by individuals whose name and date of birth matches a GA resident who died in 2020 prior to the election.

5. The Number of “Indefinitely Confined” Voters Tripled
The number of Wisconsin voters who avoided identity checks by claiming to be “indefinitely confined” surged from just under 70,000 voters in 2019 to over 200,000 in 2020. The extra 130,000 “indefinitely confined” voters were five times Biden’s margin in Wisconsin. The Trump campaign contends that “more than 28,000 votes were counted from people who failed to provide identification by abusing the state’s “indefinitely confined” status, including two Biden electors.”

6. Phony Ids Used To Vote
They could bring in confirmation of their DMV appointment in either paper or digital form; and that would be sufficient to allow them to be registered.”

7. Voters Who Had Moved Away Voted Anyway
In Georgia, over 20,000 people appear to have moved out of state. Yet, these clearly ineligible out- of-state voters appeared to have remained on the voter rolls and voted in the 2020 election.

8. Signatures Were Not Verified. In Georgia, the Secretary of State, and future governor, Brian Kemp, both supposedly Republicans, actually agreed to relax signature verification on mailed and absentee ballots so that only one signature verification was required, even though state law required two.

9. Naked Unsigned Ballots Were Counted
Democrat poll workers in Pennsylvania discarding the signed outer envelope in which paper ballots had been sent in. With just the “naked” ballot, there was no way to determine the voter’s eligibility,
While Pennsylvania law requires that the outer envelope be signed in order for the vote to be counted, the Secretary of State, Kathy Boockvar — a staunch Democrat — issued “guidance” saying that naked ballots had to be counted anyway.
Even when the Pennsylvania Supreme Court rejected Boockvar’s “guidance,” she insisted that the naked ballots be counted, and they were included in the tally.
Since polling showed that Biden won over 75% of all mail ballots (while Trump won 80% of in person election day votes), the Boockvar ruling had a lot to do with the Democrats stealing Pennsylvania’s twenty electoral votes.
In Wisconsin, “Nearly 6,000 absentee ballots were counted that were contained in incomplete and altered ballot envelopes that the Wisconsin statutes expressly forbid.”
There are basically 3 types of evidence, Eyewitnes... (show quote)


Yer so full of crap.

On the supportive side, I have no doubt you fervently believe this crap so at least yer not just a liar.

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