Oh Damn! (Page 8): You don't live in Portland do you!

redlegfrog

gorgehiker wrote:

If you are saying that Democrats have done what Trump supporters are now doing in the Capital Building, you are lying again.

You don't live in Portland do you!

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

soba1 wrote:

America is about to get what America has brought on itself

FrumCA

Blurryeyed wrote:

Yeah, and you said the same last summer? Oh Hell No you didn't, because you are a hypocrite.

Spot on Blurry!!

National Park

Fotoartist wrote:

Trump always condemned mob violence. Was always fo... (show quote)

Trump has condemned mob violence when it pertains to BLM. He has never condemned mob violence when the violence is done by right wing fanatics. "There are good people on both sides." He has yet to condemn yesterday's violence, saying yesterday's terrorists are "Patriots" and "special" people. The law and order President? Give me a break. There was nothing about law and order yesterday. It was sedition, pure and simple. He disgusts me, as does anyone who continues to justify or make excuses for his behavior. It is pathetic how staunch Trump supporters don't want to talk about what happened yesterday, and instead try to shift the conversation to BLM.

foodie65

Fotoartist wrote:

No, give yourself more credit. Antifa, BLM, and the Dem mobs won in the end.

Anything you and Dump say is fact.

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

Blurryeyed wrote:

It's been a bad day, and a horrible week for Trump... (show quote)

You're right, Trump really f'd up these past 60 days.

I sincerely feel that Trump is responsible for losing the Georgia Senate seats. His agenda has always been good and his execution and communication have been a$$. Instead of quietly working with Georgia to improve their election security for the runoff, he insulted the only people that could improve that security.

It was an extremely bad idea to invite angry people, upset about the election to congregate in Washington. It was a terrible idea for Trump to incite them with a personal appearance.

The media have been brilliant at goading Trump over the last 4 years, and frankly, I'm surprised he was as effective as he was for as long as he was. When you bruise the ego of an egomaniac for 1500 days straight it's a recipe for disastrous stupidity. In hindsight, Trump would have gotten much more done if I had not poked the media back every time they poked him.

Yesterday was soley a Trump manufactured tragedy.

National Park

redlegfrog wrote:

You don't live in Portland do you!

False equivalency, and you know it. Yesterday was a terrorist attack, incited by Trump and his minions, directly attempting to prevent Congress from performing a constitutionally required duty that is supposed to be part of a smooth transition of power. It constitutes sedition. This goes way beyond whatever the hell has happened in Portland. Ask yourself, if Muslims or Blacks, incited by Obama, had done what Trump supporters did yesterday, what would you be saying today?

redlegfrog

National Park wrote:

False equivalency, and you know it. Yesterday was a terrorist attack, incited by Trump and his minions, directly attempting to prevent Congress from performing a constitutionally required duty that is supposed to be part of a smooth transition of power. It constitutes sedition. This goes way beyond whatever the hell has happened in Portland. Ask yourself, if Muslims or Blacks, incited by Obama, had done what Trump supporters did yesterday, what would you be saying today?

Words, just words. Terrorist attack, Riot, protest, call it what you want just use the same standard when the other side is doing it.
Unlike you I refuse to take a side in this mess we have created. You are probably happy with the outcome we are watching so you don't need to add lots of words to rationalize your stance. Just enjoy it but don't add fuel to the fire!

National Park

InfiniteISO wrote:

You're right, Trump really f'd up these past 60 da... (show quote)

Trump goaded the media, not vice versa.

National Park

redlegfrog wrote:

Words, just words. Terrorist attack, Riot, protest, call it what you want just use the same standard when the other side is doing it.
Unlike you I refuse to take a side in this mess we have created. You are probably happy with the outcome we are watching so you don't need to add lots of words to rationalize your stance. Just enjoy it but don't add fuel to the fire!

I enjoy nothing about what has happened yesterday. I thought it was disgusting and it made my stomach churn in knots. I wondered why law enforcement wasn't there to the same extent as when they tear gassed peaceful demonstrators so Trump could pose with a bible he doesn't read in front of a church he doesn't attend. I condemn all rioters, including those who used BLM as an excuse to create mayhem. That said, I am waiting for someone to show me when there has been any other terrorist attack, incited by a President, into the Capitol building during a session of Congress as Congress was exercising a constitutionally required duty that would result in the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another. Yesterday was a terrorist attack on our Constitution and the government which it authorizes. It was sedition, pure and simple.

redlegfrog

National Park wrote:

I enjoy nothing about what has happened yesterday.... (show quote)

Curious how you came to choose "terrorist attack" for a label. Not well thought out.

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

Blurryeyed wrote:

Trump people acting like democrats.....

Let me be clear, I do not support what is happening in DC at the moment, but it would seem that Trump supporters have stormed DC, I guess they got tired of watching democrats burn cities and take over state capitals with no reprisals.. This is not the way that I would want to see it done.

Things are going to get really nasty if concerns over this election are not address in a very public and transparent manner.

You are a liar.
Those were not democrats- you just like saying crap like that.
Jackboot white supremacists acted up like the wanna be terrorists they really are.
This is NOT a patriotic act. It's treason.

National Park

redlegfrog wrote:

Curious how you came to choose "terrorist attack" for a label. Not well thought out.

Terrorist: a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Take a look at the fear on the faces of members of the Senate and House of Representatives yesterday and tell me they weren't intimidated and in fear of their lives. And tell me the thugs who stormed the building did not do so with unlawful violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Case closed.

Triple G

National Park wrote:

Terrorist: a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Take a look at the fear on the faces of members of the Senate and House of Representatives yesterday and tell me they weren't intimidated and in fear of their lives. And tell me the thugs who stormed the building did not do so with unlawful violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Case closed.

Here are the terrorists.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-06/donald-trump-fires-up-protesters-in-washington-as-congress-prepare-to-confirm-biden-victory?fbclid=IwAR2mWUAaKGDFco0UCvOlEaGdoPZW7XMgI-SWIpVujWCtpv95Mpppgwk-VUg

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

mwalsh wrote:

I am not talking about recounts. br br There were... (show quote)

Perhaps I misunderstood your earlier post. Regarding a review of procedures, I think it's apparent that a better system for receiving and verifying absentee is required. I'd like to believe that each state is forming a committee to review and codify new standards for mail in ballots. Comparing signatures is not feasible.