As She Stands (Page 2): I just made a point about allowing evidence to be presented.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

DennyT wrote:

Makes no one wit of evidence.
That does not entitle trump to incite a riot and cause an insurrection.

I just made a point about allowing evidence to be presented.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

soba1 wrote:

I just made a point about allowing evidence to be presented.

Let them gloat Soba, we learned much from the North Vietnamese, so that is something to think about.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

soba1 wrote:

I would accept it if there was nothing. But by not allowing him to present his evidence you give him power.
It’s kind of like the kid on the side lines yelling let me play I’m good I’m telling u.
Finally u let him play. He is really good and u gain an asset, or he is really crappy and they sit down shut up and go away.

Interesting comparison, but I don't see how it is responsive to my question of what evidence, and who is keeping him from showing it. He hasn't been prevented from showing any evidence that I know of.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

soba1 wrote:

I would accept it if there was nothing. But by not allowing him to present his evidence you give him power.
It’s kind of like the kid on the side lines yelling let me play I’m good I’m telling u.
Finally u let him play. He is really good and u gain an asset, or he is really crappy and they sit down shut up and go away.

What would convince you that there is no evidence. Also you seem to be confusing defendant from plaintive. A defendant is innocent until proved guilty. Trump, in these cases is the plaintiff. A plaintiff has to prove his case. Trump hasn't been prevented from showing any evidence. He just hasn't shown any.

Triple G

thom w wrote:

What would convince you that there is no evidence. Also you seem to be confusing defendant from plaintive. A defendant is innocent until proved guilty. Trump, in these cases is the plaintiff. A plaintiff has to prove his case. Trump hasn't been prevented from showing any evidence. He just hasn't shown any.

My take:

A) trump’s hypothesis is that there was wide spread fraud which affected the outcome to his detriment.
B) trump’s goal was to create distrust overturn election results

This strategy requires a high bar for evidence and specific filings in each of the states filed. His attorneys failed this strategy in procedure, form and evidence. He has had sixty bites of this particular apple and lost. Giving him more bites without any new evidence isn’t practical. He ended up with no standing with this strategy and inciting a major riot temper tantrum does nothing to improve that standing.

An alternate strategy would be to take all pieces of evidence categorized by fraud type and then go after the perps. This will allow discovery and impounding of software and hardware, voter rolls, and voting records and create real transparency of the process.
This approach creates more trust and faith in the system and ensures that lawbreakers are exposed and brought to Justice.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

JoAnneK01 wrote:

   Still standing in our harbor with her arm stretched high, she watches our liberty pass slowly by. Hoping for good patriots to mend her aching heart.
   Tears fall from her face as her great country is being emptied of all reason. Looking down on all the corrupted souls performing the act of treason.
   May we dry her tears by fighting for the freedoms she has stood so long to defend. For the time is now to realize her plight before our freedoms come to a bitter end…..

The left will soon be dismantling her because she welcomed many more white Europeans than people of color. And OBTW...all those lying in foreign and domestic national cemeteries....died for a Godless, Marxist government.

It was nice while it lasted.

Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYzfmS8YE0g

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

Triple G wrote:

My take: br br A) trump’s hypothesis is that th... (show quote)

"B) trump’s goal was to create distrust overturn election results"

You guys did that using the Corona Virus to manipulate the voting process so as to be ripe for fraud. We didn't need Trump or anyone else telling you that. You knew sure as hell it was going to be a Trump landslide because your ideas don't cut it with the vast majority of the American people.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

idaholover wrote:

"B) trump’s goal was to create distrust overturn election results"

You guys did that using the Corona Virus to manipulate the voting process so as to be ripe for fraud. We didn't need Trump or anyone else telling you that. You knew sure as hell it was going to be a Trump landslide because your ideas don't cut it with the vast majority of the American people.

Speaking of covid 19, I've heard there are major outbreaks in Idaho recently. Have you had a chance to visit the epicenter yet? You probably shouldn't wear a mask. I apologize to anyone you may spread it to, but enough is enough.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

phcaan wrote:

Let them gloat Soba, we learned much from the North Vietnamese, so that is something to think about.

Noted

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

thom w wrote:

What would convince you that there is no evidence. Also you seem to be confusing defendant from plaintive. A defendant is innocent until proved guilty. Trump, in these cases is the plaintiff. A plaintiff has to prove his case. Trump hasn't been prevented from showing any evidence. He just hasn't shown any.

Why not let Juliani and company present their evidence before the American people on national TV
MSM

Triple G

soba1 wrote:

Why not let Juliani and company present their evidence before the American people on national TV
MSM

Didn’t he try that at the landscape office?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

soba1 wrote:

Why not let Juliani and company present their evidence before the American people on national TV
MSM

Under oath and penalty of perjury and cross examination perhaps, but who has stopped them. Do you really believe the stuff giuliani says?

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

thom w wrote:

Under oath and penalty of perjury and cross examination perhaps, but who has stopped them. Do you really believe the stuff giuliani says?

People were bragging about how the court cases were thrown out.
What is was getting was the judges didn’t even listen.
But yes under oath etc.
On national TV just like the OJ trial.
But it’s done America gets the leader it deserves.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

thom w wrote:

Speaking of covid 19, I've heard there are major outbreaks in Idaho recently. Have you had a chance to visit the epicenter yet? You probably shouldn't wear a mask. I apologize to anyone you may spread it to, but enough is enough.

You certainly don't need to further gloat to me about being a non-beliver.

Like I said, the left is pure evil.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

thom w wrote:

Speaking of covid 19, I've heard there are major outbreaks in Idaho recently. Have you had a chance to visit the epicenter yet? You probably shouldn't wear a mask. I apologize to anyone you may spread it to, but enough is enough.

You’re a jerk. U want understanding but yet u say some crap like that.
How would like it if someone made a joke about your supposedly sick wife.
Wishing harm on someone; your a punk.