The Flaw in the Electoral College: The Electoral College needs to be fixed to reflect the true intent of the voters. Currently if a candidate with a state he (or she) gets all of the...

OlinBost Loc: Marietta, Ga.

The Electoral College needs to be fixed to reflect the true intent of the voters. Currently if a candidate with a state he (or she) gets all of the Electoral votes for the State. A better way to show the true voter wishes would be to split the votes would be to give a percentage of the votes to each candidate: 50/50 split, 30/70 split, 25/75 split, etc. based on how many votes each got. You get the picture.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

OlinBost wrote:

The Electoral College needs to be fixed to reflect the true intent of the voters. Currently if a candidate with a state he (or she) gets all of the Electoral votes for the State. A better way to show the true voter wishes would be to split the votes would be to give a percentage of the votes to each candidate: 50/50 split, 30/70 split, 25/75 split, etc. based on how many votes each got. You get the picture.

In large measure thqat would defeat the originqal purpose of the college. To attempt to give the smaller state influence, so that the larger ones would not control who gets elected. Changing the structure of the college would insure that 7 or 8 states would elect a president. the rest of the people would not matter.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

boberic wrote:

In large measure thqat would defeat the originqal purpose of the college. To attempt to give the smaller state influence, so that the larger ones would not control who gets elected. Changing the structure of the college would insure that 7 or 8 states would elect a president. the rest of the people would not matter.

I am not so sure that is correct because the number of delegates from each state is based on the population of that state + 2 for the senators. I am pretty sure that the states would still have a fair representation. It would also give republican voters in states like California, New York, and New Jersey added incentive to vote, because as it is their vote is meaningless in national elections.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

They found a way around it it’s called cheating

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

soba1 wrote:

They found a way around it it’s called cheating

No two states already do that and more have signed up intending to .

It takes no amendment and is up to state legislature’s. As was mentioned it is fair to all. Fir example in this years election California and new York gave all their electors to Biden . But under a prorated split trump would have received 18 California votes and 11 NY votes.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

DennyT wrote:

No two states already do that and more have signed up intending to .

It takes no amendment and is up to state legislature’s. As was mentioned it is fair to all. Fir example in this years election California and new York gave all thier electors . But under prorated split trump would have recurved 18 California votes and 11 NY votes.

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dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii

soba1 wrote:

They found a way around it it’s called cheating

Republicants are really good at this; make voting difficult, reduce polling places, armed thugs near the polls, etc.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

dlwhawaii wrote:

Republicants are really good at this; make voting difficult, reduce polling places, armed thugs near the polls, etc.

The only armed thugs at the polls intimidating voters I ever saw were the Black Panthers in Obama's election of 2008 in Philadelphia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party_voter_intimidation_case.

So you think voting should be made as easy as falling out of bed, no I.D. necessary? Could it be that we might get better government if we had a more informed and responsible citizenry who had the wherewithal to have a photo I.D., a place of state residency, were of the prescribed age of consent, only voted once per election, and were alive and breathing?

Is this asking too much for the modern Democrat party?

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

One simple way to make the Electoral College reflect the population would be to remove two votes from each States’ votes (the Senators). I redid the 2016 EC count and found that Trump still won but by a much smaller margin. Interesting exercise.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

OlinBost wrote:

The Electoral College needs to be fixed to reflect the true intent of the voters. Currently if a candidate with a state he (or she) gets all of the Electoral votes for the State. A better way to show the true voter wishes would be to split the votes would be to give a percentage of the votes to each candidate: 50/50 split, 30/70 split, 25/75 split, etc. based on how many votes each got. You get the picture.

There are currently two states which kind of do this.

The State of Maine assigns Electoral College Voters by County totals, which is why in the last two elections, the State of Maine has split their electoral College votes.

Nebraska is the other state.

https://electoralvotemap.com/winner-take-all-electoral-college/

https://www.270towin.com/content/split-electoral-votes-maine-and-nebraska/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#:~:text=All%20jurisdictions%20use%20a%20winner,with%20the%20highest%20statewide%20vote.

dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii

Fotoartist wrote:

The only armed thugs at the polls intimidating vot... (show quote)

Where did I mention NO ID REQUIRED. I just referred to Republicant actions.

dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii

dlwhawaii wrote:

Where did I mention NO ID REQUIRED. I just referred to Republicant actions.

For further refutation to Black Panthers read: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/30/us/poll-watching-intimidation.html

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Fotoartist wrote:

The only armed thugs at the polls intimidating vot... (show quote)

You really do need to keep up with the real world facts!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/armed-trump-supporters-at-florida-polling-site-were-off-duty-guards-and-had-not-been-hired-officials-say/2020/10/22/c350b3ac-147b-11eb-ad6f-36c93e6e94fb_story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/us/politics/trump-supporters-early-voting-virginia.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/29/2020-election-voter-suppression-looks-like-guns-lies-and-fires/6044702002/

https://www.businessinsider.com/armed-men-florida-polling-place-trump-campaign-denied-connected-2020-10

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2020/10/22/two-armed-men-claiming-to-be-with-trump-campaign-show-up-at-st-pete-early-voting-site

https://www.startribune.com/calls-for-armed-guards-army-for-trump-cause-alarm-in-minn/572817002/

https://www.newsweek.com/voter-intimidation-armed-men-trump-miami-1541274
Yes, we all know that it was revealed that trump didn't hire these thugs, but they were trump supporters, they were armed outside of polling places, and were attempting to intimidate voters.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/trumps-calls-to-intimidate-voters-may-already-be-paying-off

redlegfrog

boberic wrote:

In large measure thqat would defeat the originqal purpose of the college. To attempt to give the smaller state influence, so that the larger ones would not control who gets elected. Changing the structure of the college would insure that 7 or 8 states would elect a president. the rest of the people would not matter.

Well said.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

redlegfrog wrote:

Well said.

Without the electoral college, the republicans would never win.