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Dec 24, 2020 12:41:10   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
srg wrote:
The concept of "Entaglement" in quantum physics, which I do not understand at all, claims that an electron, or a piece of energy, as it were, can be connected to another piece of energy in such a way that an effect on one will produce the same identical effect on the other. The interesting thing about this theory is that this mirroring is not dependent on proximity. I.e. it can take place instantaneously in both energy quanta despite being thousands of light years in distance apart from each other. The influence of one upon the other happens faster than the speed of light.
Yes, i believe there are still impenetrable mysteries in our universe. Remember, we all are composed of atoms. Where did these atoms come from? Where are they going to go? Are atoms matter? Or are they pure energy? Merry Christmas all.
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Wow! You pose some deep fundamental questions! In the end science will discover the answers or as many as are available to our minds. Fascinating!

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Dec 24, 2020 12:46:11   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Happy Festivus! Enjoy the days off you get from work!

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Dec 24, 2020 13:03:15   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
srg wrote:
The concept of "Entaglement" in quantum physics, which I do not understand at all, claims that an electron, or a piece of energy, as it were, can be connected to another piece of energy in such a way that an effect on one will produce the same identical effect on the other. The interesting thing about this theory is that this mirroring is not dependent on proximity. I.e. it can take place instantaneously in both energy quanta despite being thousands of light years in distance apart from each other. The influence of one upon the other happens faster than the speed of light.
Yes, i believe there are still impenetrable mysteries in our universe. Remember, we all are composed of atoms. Where did these atoms come from? Where are they going to go? Are atoms matter? Or are they pure energy? Merry Christmas all.
The concept of "Entaglement" in quantum ... (show quote)


Yep. Einstein called it "the ghost in the machine" or action at a distance. I can't do math, never have been able to do math. I very much wish I could because the only way to understand this stuff is through mathematics. Hell, I can only do arithmetic using my fingers and toes. And then with difficulty.
I'm sure we will never understand all the mysteries presented to us.

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Dec 24, 2020 13:08:39   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
PaulBrit wrote:
There is so much intolerance and so much conflict, as you so rightly say. We need much more in the way of enquiring minds, especially as we face significant global challenges that we, as a world society, have to resolve. I am reminded of the teachings of Richard Dawkins. Sorry, I didn’t mean to hijack the thread. Everyone have a wonderful break from an interesting year! 😎


The Chinese have a curse that they impose on their enemies. "may you live in interesting times". I guess they have imposed this curse on us all. Makes you wonder if they have any friends?

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Dec 24, 2020 13:14:56   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
"an atheist goes for a walk in the woods..." And enjoys it just as much as the Christian or Jew or Moslem.

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Dec 24, 2020 13:34:01   #
shangyrhee Loc: Nashville TN to Sacramento CA
 
Regardless as long as we do not hate each other we have hope for the brighter light !!! Shang

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Dec 24, 2020 14:04:29   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
The fool hath said in his heart " There is no GOD." Psalms 14:1

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Dec 24, 2020 14:04:52   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
You all can believe what you will. It ain't no skin off my teeth. However when you die you are going to be faced with some really hard realities. I hope you are happy with them.

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Dec 24, 2020 14:07:01   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Srg.

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Dec 24, 2020 15:17:25   #
Canisdirus
 
Bigmike1 wrote:
You all can believe what you will. It ain't no skin off my teeth. However when you die you are going to be faced with some really hard realities. I hope you are happy with them.


There is simply no evidence of any afterlife.
Besides...love through fear is not in my wheelhouse.

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Dec 24, 2020 15:26:04   #
srg
 
Canisdirus wrote:
There is simply no evidence of any afterlife.
Besides...love through fear is not in my wheelhouse.


Agreed that love through fear is oxymoronic. Religion has for the most part been hijacked by organizations interested in power and money. However, if the door to your wheelhouse is not locked and welded shut, you may benefit by one of many gifts supplied by our earth in the form of certain mushrooms, herbs, etc.

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Dec 24, 2020 16:00:23   #
meriwether50
 
srg wrote:
The concept of "Entaglement" in quantum physics, which I do not understand at all, claims that an electron, or a piece of energy, as it were, can be connected to another piece of energy in such a way that an effect on one will produce the same identical effect on the other. The interesting thing about this theory is that this mirroring is not dependent on proximity. I.e. it can take place instantaneously in both energy quanta despite being thousands of light years in distance apart from each other. The influence of one upon the other happens faster than the speed of light.
Yes, i believe there are still impenetrable mysteries in our universe. Remember, we all are composed of atoms. Where did these atoms come from? Where are they going to go? Are atoms matter? Or are they pure energy? Merry Christmas all.
The concept of "Entaglement" in quantum ... (show quote)


It sounds like you have a pretty good grasp of the concept.
See this article: https://inqnet.caltech.edu/PRX-Brief.html

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Dec 24, 2020 17:48:40   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
You know, I have always liked the saying that was popular among soldiers in World War II. "There are no atheists in foxholes." I can well believe that. There were photographers in foxholes. I wonder how many of them were atheists?

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Dec 24, 2020 20:09:05   #
canonclicker
 
I have enjoyed each one of these comments! They are in the spirit of Christmas. No shouting, no slandering except in very light tones. Christmas means CHRIST MASS. I believe in Jesus Christ and don't believe in mass, but this is a time when hearts atheist and non-atheist are able to speak with little disharmony. We need times like this more often.

I have atheists and non-atheists as friends. We all need friends that can help others know how we feel under our skin. We need to show our real selves to others without qualms. Don't we all cover ourselves from our real self and show only the best to others?

I believe Jesus Christ is waiting for a time when those who do not believe will really want to know if He is really coming back. (Matt 24 plus others) Jesus even says, "Even I don't know when I am coming back, the Father only knows."

Many don't know that when a fetus becomes a living baby, instantly, the umbilicus becomes a valve so it this child can self-sustain itself by pumping its own blood rather than from it's Mother. How can any other means accomplish this fete? I believe that their is a God and this God created the ability for this to happen.

There is another miracle that happens at the same moment in time. I cannot quote this but need to ask the medical school for I haven't heard it for years. At the same moment when the umbilicus cord is severed in the heart the is a valve that becomes a ligament that controls the opening/shutting of the heart so the blood can continue flowing. Again, I ask who or what causes this? I believe this is the same God that create you and me.

I also have a scientist that has created a fossil in a short time. and the other scientists are embarrassed to acknowledge it because it shows a missing link to their philosophy of the 'many years' theory. He has at least 2 other projects that have denyed the millions of years theory. Keep the word 'Theory' in your mind forever because Evolution is only a theory, not a fact! Some try to make the word Evolution a fact.

Also, remember each of us have our opinions. Let others have their opinions. This is healthy. Never should we deny anyone from sharing their opinions. If you are not an Atheist listen to them! They to have their opinion. Sharing is where we can come together at Christmas time and any other time each year.

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Dec 24, 2020 21:27:41   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Bigmike1 wrote:
You all can believe what you will. It ain't no skin off my teeth. However when you die you are going to be faced with some really hard realities. I hope you are happy with them.


More info please?

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