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Dec 13, 2020 09:04:27   #
Stephan G
 
srt101fan wrote:
I hear you. I've been trying to understand anti-maskers. I think you're right that some have adopted a stance that is not based on reason and only look at information that supports their position.

The most adamant opposers seem to be those that resent mandates as an infringement on their rights and freedom. I just wish they would mask voluntarily.

In any case, I believe discussions are important.....


Just a sidenote. The problem is in whether the deniers are neurotic or psychotic. In the former, a reasoned discussion can progress to greater comprehension (cure). In the latter, a restructuring of the mental state is required in hope of some comprehension. Sadly, reasoned dialogs are rendered ineffective in the latter.

I agree that it does infringe on the right for the "opposer" to commit suicide. They do not have any "Freedom" to demand payment for their costs, nor to kill others in the process.

I concur that discussions, and dialogs, are very important.

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Dec 13, 2020 21:55:52   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
Say Cheese wrote:
We hear masks work then we hear that they do not work. People wear the mask still get the virus just like the governor of Pa. did.. I am getting very tired of this!


It’s not either/or. Nothing gives 100% protection from Covid, but a few things reduce the chances of getting it. Such as the usual recommendations: wear masks, wash hands often, social distancing, avoiding groups, etc. I suppose staying home 100% of the time with absolutely no contact with anyone else may provide close to 100% protection, but who can do that. It’s like driving. There is always some risk of an accident, but there are things you can do to reduce the risk, such as using seat belts, staying within speed limit, making sure you are awake, replacing tires when needed, not using your cell phone while driving, etc. You can do everything recommended and still get Covid, but if you follow the CDC recommendations your chances are reduced. Frank

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Dec 13, 2020 21:59:23   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
oregonfrank wrote:
It’s not either/or. Nothing gives 100% protection from Covid, but a few things reduce the chances of getting it. Such as the usual recommendations: wear masks, wash hands often, social distancing, avoiding groups, etc. I suppose staying home 100% of the time with absolutely no contact with anyone else may provide close to 100% protection, but who can do that. It’s like driving. There is always some risk of an accident, but there are things you can do to reduce the risk, such as using seat belts, staying within speed limit, making sure you are awake, replacing tires when needed, not using your cell phone while driving, etc. You can do everything recommended and still get Covid, but if you follow the CDC recommendations your chances are reduced. Frank
It’s not either/or. Nothing gives 100% protection... (show quote)


To add another comment: Even a vaccine, none the ones becoming available, provides 100% protection. The good ones are 90+% effective. Frank

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Dec 13, 2020 22:16:29   #
srt101fan
 
oregonfrank wrote:
It’s not either/or. Nothing gives 100% protection from Covid, but a few things reduce the chances of getting it. Such as the usual recommendations: wear masks, wash hands often, social distancing, avoiding groups, etc. I suppose staying home 100% of the time with absolutely no contact with anyone else may provide close to 100% protection, but who can do that. It’s like driving. There is always some risk of an accident, but there are things you can do to reduce the risk, such as using seat belts, staying within speed limit, making sure you are awake, replacing tires when needed, not using your cell phone while driving, etc. You can do everything recommended and still get Covid, but if you follow the CDC recommendations your chances are reduced. Frank
It’s not either/or. Nothing gives 100% protection... (show quote)



I've never understood the all-or-nothing mentality....

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Dec 13, 2020 22:59:11   #
clickety
 
awesomeda wrote:
What they are finding is that the severity of an individual’s’ infection seems to be related to the amount of Covid molecules a person is exposed. A room full with Covid molecules will do far more damage. A mask should blunt the amount of an individual’s exposure, they may still get it but the symptoms are less severe.


Like a crowded multi hour airplane journey maybe???

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Dec 13, 2020 23:39:35   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
clickety wrote:
Like a crowded multi hour airplane journey maybe???


Not to mention the densely populated terminals populated with passengers from many geographic regions. Hard to imagine a much riskier endeavor except a mass gathering/rally without masks.

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