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Dec 2, 2020 09:40:56   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local non-profit photo contest. (I’m pretty excited! I’m an amateur.)

In lieu of trained and official judges, the winner will be determined by popular voting on Facebook and Instagram. This has become quite common lately. I have accounts on each, but rarely use them and have few ‘friends’ or ‘followers.’ My question: is it ethical and appropriate to text/email my real-life friends and photo club members, tell them my situation, and ask them to consider voting for my photo?

Also, may I vote for my own photo? (Voters are not anonymous!)

[In this contest, voters do not have to pay anything to vote. Some organizations have instituted a small fee for fund-raising. ]

Thanks!

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Dec 2, 2020 09:57:28   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
dbfalconer wrote:
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local non-profit photo contest. (I’m pretty excited! I’m an amateur.)

In lieu of trained and official judges, the winner will be determined by popular voting on Facebook and Instagram. This has become quite common lately. I have accounts on each, but rarely use them and have few ‘friends’ or ‘followers.’ My question: is it ethical and appropriate to text/email my real-life friends and photo club members, tell them my situation, and ask them to consider voting for my photo?

Also, may I vote for my own photo? (Voters are not anonymous!)

[In this contest, voters do not have to pay anything to vote. Some organizations have instituted a small fee for fund-raising. ]

Thanks!
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Your key words was consider. The way you phrased it, I do not think it is unethical.Good luck.
My question: is it ethical and appropriate to text/email my real-life friends and photo club members, tell them my situation, and ask them to consider voting for my photo

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Dec 2, 2020 10:10:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
"Vote for my image..." sent to many people is an attempt at stacking the deck.
People being your friend will vote for it regardless if they like it, just to help you win.

"If you like my image, please vote for it." may be better, but what do they do if they like another more???
Will they still vote for yours because you're they're friend and they don't know the other entrants, or the one they like more...

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Dec 2, 2020 10:11:36   #
AndyBob Loc: St. Louis
 
dbfalconer wrote:
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local non-profit photo contest. (I’m pretty excited! I’m an amateur.)

In lieu of trained and official judges, the winner will be determined by popular voting on Facebook and Instagram. This has become quite common lately. I have accounts on each, but rarely use them and have few ‘friends’ or ‘followers.’ My question: is it ethical and appropriate to text/email my real-life friends and photo club members, tell them my situation, and ask them to consider voting for my photo?

Also, may I vote for my own photo? (Voters are not anonymous!)

[In this contest, voters do not have to pay anything to vote. Some organizations have instituted a small fee for fund-raising. ]

Thanks!
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local... (show quote)


Not unethical to ask. The choice is still theirs. As for your vote, go for it - after all, political candidates vote for themselves, don't they!

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Dec 2, 2020 10:44:53   #
BebuLamar
 
One must vote for oneself because if you don't then you yourself don't think the image is worthy. I don't think it's the same asking friends and family to vote for you because they might just like you and not your image.

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Dec 2, 2020 10:45:05   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
Thank you all! These comments are helpful. The folks I’d contact would never even know about the organization, much less the contest. I can explain the organization’s important role here, too.

And yes, they can certainly vote for another photo! 😉. That’s a risk I take.

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Dec 2, 2020 10:48:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
AndyBob wrote:
Not unethical to ask. The choice is still theirs. As for your vote, go for it - after all, political candidates vote for themselves, don't they!

Not unethical to say "Flood my image with votes please."?
The choice of voting or being ethical would be theirs.
I guess it depends on how they feel about you winning.
More important than being ethical or not?

Vote early, vote often.

I REALLY like the ones that let you vote once a day for, lets say, 30 days..... /s
100 friends voting daily is only 3,000 votes...

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Dec 2, 2020 10:57:16   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
Longshadow wrote:
Not unethical to say "Flood my image with votes please."?
The choice of voting or being ethical would be theirs.
I guess it depends on how they feel about you winning.
More important than being ethical or not?

Vote early, vote often.

I REALLY like the ones that let you vote once a day for, lets say, 30 days..... /s
100 friends voting daily is only 3,000 votes...



I would never say ‘please vote for my image.’ Mostly I’d be sharing my delight at getting selected at all, and letting them know about the contest in case they wanted to check it out. For me, it’s all in fun. No big prizes or anything. (I frequently share photos with these friends, so photography is a common topic for us.)
Thanks for your perspective.

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Dec 2, 2020 11:00:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dbfalconer wrote:
I would never say ‘please vote for my image.’ Mostly I’d be sharing my delight at getting selected at all, and letting them know about the contest in case they wanted to check it out. For me, it’s all in fun. No big prizes or anything. (I frequently share photos with these friends, so photography is a common topic for us.)
Thanks for your perspective.

Kinda implied?
Or just more likely to be inferred.

"Contests" are usually entered to win.

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Dec 2, 2020 11:09:04   #
BB4A
 
dbfalconer wrote:
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local non-profit photo contest. (I’m pretty excited! I’m an amateur.)

In lieu of trained and official judges, the winner will be determined by popular voting on Facebook and Instagram. This has become quite common lately. I have accounts on each, but rarely use them and have few ‘friends’ or ‘followers.’ My question: is it ethical and appropriate to text/email my real-life friends and photo club members, tell them my situation, and ask them to consider voting for my photo?

Also, may I vote for my own photo? (Voters are not anonymous!)

[In this contest, voters do not have to pay anything to vote. Some organizations have instituted a small fee for fund-raising. ]

Thanks!
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local... (show quote)


An interesting mathematical problem, with a multi-perspective model thrown in.

If you believe your photograph is the best entry in the competition, then it will do your chance of winning no harm by asking friends to vote for the best photograph. If your photograph isn’t considered the best, then encouraging more people to vote for the best photograph could hurt your chances of winning.

Ethically, I believe it’s OK to tell friends you have entered a competition and invite them to vote for the best picture... but be aware you may not get what you want? I believe it’s not ethical to ask people to vote for your photograph... it then ceases to be a perception of merit competition and becomes a personal popularity contest. That’s just one small step away from political electioneering. 😉

Of course, most photographic competitions tend to have a small element of (unconscious?) political engineering inbuilt. When in doubt between two excellent photographs, most people tend to vote for a good picture produced by a known, previous competition winner. Particularly in International competitions, voters gravitate to perceptions of track record success and often don’t associate winners with long periods when they weren’t winning anything. It’s like the popular music industry; “overnight sensation” is mostly myth overlaying hard work for many years.

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Dec 2, 2020 11:14:36   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
Longshadow wrote:
Kinda implied?
Or just more likely to be inferred.

"Contests" are usually entered to win.


Good points. Guess if I knew a friend had a photo in a contest, and I liked it, I'd be happy to vote for it. I wouldn't feel pressured. That's just me.

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Dec 2, 2020 11:17:22   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
BB4A wrote:
An interesting mathematical problem, with a multi-perspective model thrown in.

If you believe your photograph is the best entry in the competition, then it will do your chance of winning no harm by asking friends to vote for the best photograph. If your photograph isn’t considered the best, then encouraging more people to vote for the best photograph could hurt your chances of winning.

Ethically, I believe it’s OK to tell friends you have entered a competition and invite them to vote for the best picture... but be aware you may not get what you want? I believe it’s not ethical to ask people to vote for your photograph... it then ceases to be a perception of merit competition and becomes a personal popularity contest. That’s just one small step away from political electioneering. 😉

Of course, most photographic competitions tend to have a small element of (unconscious?) political engineering inbuilt. When in doubt between two excellent photographs, most people tend to vote for a good picture produced by a known, previous competition winner. Particularly in International competitions, voters gravitate to perceptions of track record success and often don’t associate winners with long periods when they weren’t winning anything. It’s like the popular music industry; “overnight sensation” is mostly myth overlaying hard work for many years.
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Thanks. Food for thought. There are risks! And that's ok...

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Dec 2, 2020 11:31:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dbfalconer wrote:
Good points. Guess if I knew a friend had a photo in a contest, and I liked it, I'd be happy to vote for it. I wouldn't feel pressured. That's just me.

As with the vast majority of people.

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Dec 2, 2020 11:31:29   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
dbfalconer wrote:
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If folks vote for you because you are a friend it is an issue. If you are totally honest, send them to the site and let them decide w/o saying what you shot.

As to the political 'vote'... Using your friends/relative/workers/whatever to vote for you just because you are you is the best bet to create dictators. See how that will work.

No, thank you.

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Dec 2, 2020 11:37:47   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
dbfalconer wrote:
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local non-profit photo contest. (I’m pretty excited! I’m an amateur.)

In lieu of trained and official judges, the winner will be determined by popular voting on Facebook and Instagram. This has become quite common lately. I have accounts on each, but rarely use them and have few ‘friends’ or ‘followers.’ My question: is it ethical and appropriate to text/email my real-life friends and photo club members, tell them my situation, and ask them to consider voting for my photo?

Also, may I vote for my own photo? (Voters are not anonymous!)

[In this contest, voters do not have to pay anything to vote. Some organizations have instituted a small fee for fund-raising. ]

Thanks!
My photo was chosen as one of the top 5 in a local... (show quote)

If the picture is good enough, it will get the votes without your solitation.

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