Preemptive Pardons
Dec 2, 2020 06:15:56 #
Dec 2, 2020 06:20:17 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
Trump has a list—-including Rudy, and his three oldest children.
And so does Santa Clause, there will be coal in all their stockings.🎅
Dec 2, 2020 06:47:49 #
Anyone see the news that the DOJ has been investigating a bribery for pardons scheme since late August? Heavily redacted court documents were just released with the names of the individuals involved redacted.
Dec 2, 2020 06:58:55 #
flip1948 wrote:
Anyone see the news that the DOJ has been investigating a bribery for pardons scheme since late August? Heavily redacted court documents were just released with the names of the individuals involved redacted.
I saw the news. Trump is a thug, and something stinks.
Dec 2, 2020 09:26:23 #
Dec 2, 2020 09:29:49 #
Frank T wrote:
Do orange jumpsuits come in 5X?
Asking for a President.
Asking for a President.
Straight Jacket, one size fits all.
Dec 2, 2020 10:13:13 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
I saw the news. Trump is a thug, and something stinks.
Any president has the right to pardon anyone for any reason at any time. Past presidents have pardoned far more dangerous people. Nixon was pardoned before any charges were even brought. The pardon was granted before any crime was officially charged. He 3was not even impeached
Dec 2, 2020 10:20:35 #
Dec 2, 2020 10:28:11 #
boberic wrote:
Any president has the right to pardon anyone for any reason at any time. Past presidents have pardoned far more dangerous people. Nixon was pardoned before any charges were even brought. The pardon was granted before any crime was officially charged. He 3was not even impeached
All true except it is not “ for any reason “ . It is only for federal issues not state or local crimes.
Dec 2, 2020 10:31:14 #
Few Presidents have been faced with a decision to discuss pardoning personal lawyers and family members when leaving office.
Bu, it happens--I guess.
Bu, it happens--I guess.
Dec 2, 2020 11:24:07 #
Maybe, someone should tell Fat Donny that he'll need to specify the crimes he's pardoning these miscreants for.
That should make for some interesting reading.
That should make for some interesting reading.
Dec 2, 2020 11:30:47 #
Frank T wrote:
Maybe, someone should tell Fat Donny that he'll need to specify the crimes he's pardoning these miscreants for.
That should make for some interesting reading.
That should make for some interesting reading.
A preemptive pardon is akin to a "Get out of Jail Free Card".
Dec 2, 2020 11:50:49 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
According to Wikipedia, the Supreme Court has never ruled on the legality of pardons such as Nixon received or might happen in Trump World.A preemptive pardon is akin to a "Get out of Jail Free Card".
Definitely only federal crimes are within the scope of a presidential pardon, however.
Dec 2, 2020 14:54:20 #
boberic wrote:
Any president has the right to pardon anyone for any reason at any time. Past presidents have pardoned far more dangerous people. Nixon was pardoned before any charges were even brought. The pardon was granted before any crime was officially charged. He 3was not even impeached
With the exception of Ford's pardon of Nixon, I do not know of any pardon that was issued before a federal charge was filed. The Nixon pardon is an exception; Ford acted in the best interests of the country. It seems to me that presumptive pardons essentially puts the pardoned above the law. I think it would be sleazy in the extreme to grant presumptive pardons to Rudy and the kids.
Dec 2, 2020 14:59:09 #
DukeTarHeel wrote:
His own bar for "sleezy and extreme" is already set very, very low.... I think it would be sleazy in the extreme to grant presumptive pardons to Rudy and the kids.
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