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Nov 29, 2020 15:50:31   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Is trump a danger to America? He seems to be more and more losing touch with reality.
This morning he speculated that DOJ & FBI May be part of the conspiracy


“This is total fraud. And how the FBI, and Department of Justice — I don't know, maybe they're involved —: but how people are allowed to get away with this is stuff is unbelievable. This election was rigged. This election was a total fraud,” Trump said.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-fox-news-interview-election-conspiracies-fbi-doj-162824530.html

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Nov 29, 2020 16:03:56   #
Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin
 
Crackpot

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Nov 29, 2020 17:01:34   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
In case anyone has forgotten, on Nov. 9 Attorney General Barr authorized "federal prosecutors to investigate 'specific allegations' of voter fraud before the results of the presidential race are certified."

This caused the director of the Election Crimes Branch of the Justice Department, Richard Pilger, to immediately resign in protest.

I wonder if Trump will now fire Barr for not producing evidence that doesn't exist?

As for the FBI, they are busy assisting Georgia's bureau with investigating threats to election officials there, while Trump says he is "ashamed" that he endorsed Republican governor Kemp (who certified his state's votes).

A surreal month becomes more frightening every day.

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Nov 29, 2020 17:18:22   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
DennyT wrote:
Is trump a danger to America? He seems to be more and more losing touch with reality.
This morning he speculated that DOJ & FBI May be part of the conspiracy


“This is total fraud. And how the FBI, and Department of Justice — I don't know, maybe they're involved —: but how people are allowed to get away with this is stuff is unbelievable. This election was rigged. This election was a total fraud,” Trump said.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-fox-news-interview-election-conspiracies-fbi-doj-162824530.html
Is trump a danger to America? He seems to be more ... (show quote)


Trump has convinced half of America that American democracy is rotted to the core. Some dangerous legacy.



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Nov 29, 2020 17:34:25   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
As a trump supporter he would do well to shut up and let the system work. It should go through the courts and play out. If it doesn't go his way he should let it go. And perhaps try again next time. His job now is to get the 2 senate races in georgia to go republican. If they go democrat the one party rule may cause permanant damage to the country

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Nov 29, 2020 17:40:31   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
boberic wrote:
As a trump supporter he would do well to shut up and let the system work. It should go through the courts and play out. If it doesn't go his way he should let it go. And perhaps try again next time. His job now is to get the 2 senate races in georgia to go republican. If they go democrat the one party rule may cause permanant damage to the country
There was never any evidence; you can discern that from each court ruling to date.

It is way beyond "let it go" - he has poisoned millions of (willing) minds against not only this election, but voting results period. In Washington State the loser of the gubernatorial race by half a million votes has refused to concede. Culp, a Republican, said he and his supporters are gathering reports of errors and “when we feel like there’s enough, we will take action.” Whether it will be enough to change the course of the governor’s race, he didn’t know.

Secretary of State Wyman (also a Republican) said she’d like to see what they compile. “I assume that at some point they’ll share it with us."

This is our future.

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Nov 29, 2020 17:53:56   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
There was never any evidence; you can discern that from each court ruling to date.

It is way beyond "let it go" - he has poisoned millions of (willing) minds against not only this election, but voting period. In Washington State the loser of the gubernatorial race by half a million votes has refused to concede. Culp said he and his supporters are gathering reports of errors and “when we feel like there’s enough, we will take action.” Whether it will be enough to change the course of the governor’s race, he didn’t know.

Secretary of State Wyman (a Republican) said she’d like to see what they compile. “I assume that at some point they’ll share it with us."

This is our future.
There was never any evidence; you can discern that... (show quote)

If The senate goes democrat our grand children will grow up in a radically different country. The democrats have said exacty that. It aint my futur4e that concerns me. I think that for the vastly overwhelming number of citizens the country (with all it's flaws) is the best country ever. It does NOT need major changes.

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Nov 29, 2020 18:03:34   #
National Park
 
If the Senate goes Democrat you won't see the radical changes you expect. Many Democratic Senators are from red states; that aren't going to be voting for radical changes.

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Nov 29, 2020 18:08:49   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
National Park wrote:
If the Senate goes Democrat you won't see the radical changes you expect. Many Democratic Senators are from red states; that aren't going to be voting for radical changes.


That’s the truth .but that doesn’t Fit the trump supporters scare tactics

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Nov 29, 2020 18:24:06   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
boberic wrote:
If The senate goes democrat our grand children will grow up in a radically different country. The democrats have said exacty that. It aint my futur4e that concerns me. I think that for the vastly overwhelming number of citizens the country (with all it's flaws) is the best country ever. It does NOT need major changes.
I don't believe there will be radical changes (I'm a moderate!), but our definitions may vary.

If we can keep the middle class economically strong, your grandchildren's futures will be just fine.

One of the "scare tactics" is Defund the Police - a perfect phrase for the opposition because it's short and catchy and radical-sounding. But if you read several opinions and sources you'll find that the ideas have to do with funding social solutions rather than some of the current police actions - such as for mentally ill or non-violent first offenders. A very complicated subject cannot be distilled into 3 words.

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Nov 30, 2020 06:35:15   #
incognito
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I don't believe there will be radical changes (I'm a moderate!), but our definitions may vary.

If we can keep the middle class economically strong, your grandchildren's futures will be just fine.

One of the "scare tactics" is Defund the Police - a perfect phrase for the opposition because it's short and catchy and radical-sounding. But if you read several opinions and sources you'll find that the ideas have to do with funding social solutions rather than some of the current police actions - such as for mentally ill or non-violent first offenders. A very complicated subject cannot be distilled into 3 words.
I don't believe there will be radical changes (I'm... (show quote)


Well your definition is lost in the minds of radicals. When a Mayor takes away a million bucks from the police budget, When they support anarchist and looters and don't support their police when criminals are released back on the street without any bail just to commit another crime. When it becomes a crime to defend yourself from the evil that lurks in the minds of men. That is what most people think is defunding the police Wow 3 little words. You can't just take the money away and give it to goody two shoes liberals without any prior training it just won't work. Set up your beloved social solutions programs first and then slowly transfer funds and don't walk too close behind DeBlasio for obvious reasons.

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Nov 30, 2020 07:37:45   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
incognito wrote:
Well your definition is lost in the minds of radicals. When a Mayor takes away a million bucks from the police budget, When they support anarchist and looters and don't support their police when criminals are released back on the street without any bail just to commit another crime. When it becomes a crime to defend yourself from the evil that lurks in the minds of men. That is what most people think is defunding the police Wow 3 little words. You can't just take the money away and give it to goody two shoes liberals without any prior training it just won't work. Set up your beloved social solutions programs first and then slowly transfer funds and don't walk too close behind DeBlasio for obvious reasons.
Well your definition is lost in the minds of radic... (show quote)



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Nov 30, 2020 09:46:14   #
FrumCA
 
boberic wrote:
As a trump supporter he would do well to shut up and let the system work. It should go through the courts and play out. If it doesn't go his way he should let it go. And perhaps try again next time. His job now is to get the 2 senate races in georgia to go republican. If they go democrat the one party rule may cause permanant damage to the country

It won't be "may cause" permanent damage. May I suggest that it "will cause" permanent damage to the country.

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Nov 30, 2020 11:12:15   #
Tex-s
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
There was never any evidence; you can discern that from each court ruling to date.

It is way beyond "let it go" - he has poisoned millions of (willing) minds against not only this election, but voting results period. In Washington State the loser of the gubernatorial race by half a million votes has refused to concede. Culp, a Republican, said he and his supporters are gathering reports of errors and “when we feel like there’s enough, we will take action.” Whether it will be enough to change the course of the governor’s race, he didn’t know.

Secretary of State Wyman (also a Republican) said she’d like to see what they compile. “I assume that at some point they’ll share it with us."

This is our future.
There was never any evidence; you can discern that... (show quote)


If the left REALLY want this type of election-denial to stop (and let's not pretend the majority of Democrat talking heads ever quit calling Trump 'illegitimate') all it takes is a national voter ID to be verified 60 days in advance of an election. From there all mail-in votes would be tied to an ID, all absentee ballots, and all in person as well. FAR less room to question the results if every vote can be tied to a previously verified voter.

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Nov 30, 2020 11:17:47   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Tex-s wrote:
If the left REALLY want this type of election-denial to stop (and let's not pretend the majority of Democrat talking heads ever quit calling Trump 'illegitimate') all it takes is a national voter ID to be verified 60 days in advance of an election. From there all mail-in votes would be tied to an ID, all absentee ballots, and all in person as well. FAR less room to question the results if every vote can be tied to a previously verified voter.


Don't you realize that only the Dems, I mean the Dimwits, cannot produce Legal ID.

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