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Nov 15, 2020 12:11:15   #
MountainDave
 
BrianFlaherty wrote:
If today (Sunday) we are trading stories about our love affairs with Primes, I'm gonna toss in my own. Years ago (about 50 or so) I was beginning grad school [Go Badgers! They just beat the crap outta Michigan yesterday!] and, I scored a grad asst position which carried with it free tuition and a monthly stipend. Thus, flush with cash from my student loan, I bought a used Porsche and my first REAL camera: a Nikon FTN and one really good lens. . .a Nikkor f85 1.4. Several years later I began work as a forensic investigator and expert witness relative to construction defects and personal injuries. Photographs were an important of my testimony and presentations to juries. . .And, I put the Nikon to excellent use! And, found that that Nikkor lens was my "go to" lens for 90% of the photos I brought to court. For over 20 years, the only lens I REALLY needed was the f85 (though I did buy a number of other lenses; and, I did upgrade the camera to a F3 and F4). . And, in the over 20 years, I worked in the courts, I never lost a case! That f85 was like having God on the front of my camera!
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I am retired now from courtroom work. . .However, I do occasional "inspections" of buildings for developers; realtors; etc. . And, I still have that Nikkor f85 that I purchased in 1968 (used on either the old F3 or a new D7100 body). . It may have been duplicated; but, it has NEVER been improved! <smile>

The red 1963 Porsche is no longer with me. . However, I do have a 1984 red Mercedes 380SL (an old man's car!)
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Cool story--thanks!

Dave

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Nov 15, 2020 13:23:40   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Leitz wrote:
Is your lens defective? It ought to zoom out to 70mm.



The 70-200 FL zooms out to 200, not 70.

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Nov 15, 2020 15:06:24   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"...Today's zoom lenses are not your fathers zooms of the film past... billnikon and what makes you think that my father's zoom isn't a match for today's over priced Nikkor Zooms...

While I totally agree that hobbyist are pretty much tethered to VR and Nano Crystal Coatings and such... these "features" matter little to commercial shooters in a studios... Besides all 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms weights in at twice (my father's) AF 70-210 f/4 (actually Nikon's first generation AF tele zoom). This elegant little gem is a joy to shoot... with stellar contrast and acuity (count the eyelashes)

btw I have and use the AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G IF ED VR II (at events, on location etc) however in the studio my Vintage (circa 1986) AF 70-210mm f/4 Nikkor pays the bills... Just so you don't brand me as a "talking head", below please find a capture with this epic AF 70-210 f/4 vintage optic...

Tag you're it... i.e. now who's talking head billnikon... lol
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Vintage (circa 1986) AF 70-210mm f/4 Nikkor on a Nikon D810
Vintage (circa 1986) AF 70-210mm f/4 Nikkor on a N...
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Nov 15, 2020 15:13:05   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...Today's zoom lenses are not your fathers zooms of the film past... billnikon and what makes you think that my father's zoom isn't a match for today's over priced Nikkor Zooms...

While I totally agree that hobbyist are pretty much tethered to VR and Nano Crystal Coatings and such... these "features" matter little to commercial shooters in a studios... Besides all 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms weights in at twice (my father's) AF 70-210 f/4 (actually Nikon's first generation AF tele zoom). This elegant little gem is a joy to shoot... with stellar contrast and acuity (count the eyelashes)

btw I have and use the AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G IF ED VR II (at events, on location etc) however in the studio my Vintage (circa 1986) AF 70-210mm f/4 Nikkor pays the bills... Just so you don't brand me as a "talking head", below please find a capture with this epic AF 70-210 f/4 vintage optic...

Tag you're it... i.e. now who's talking head billnikon... lol
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Thomas, you certainly walk what you talk. The proof is in the photo.

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Nov 15, 2020 15:31:57   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...Today's zoom lenses are not your fathers zooms of the film past... billnikon and what makes you think that my father's zoom isn't a match for today's over priced Nikkor Zooms...

While I totally agree that hobbyist are pretty much tethered to VR and Nano Crystal Coatings and such... these "features" matter little to commercial shooters in a studios... Besides all 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms weights in at twice (my father's) AF 70-210 f/4 (actually Nikon's first generation AF tele zoom). This elegant little gem is a joy to shoot... with stellar contrast and acuity (count the eyelashes)

btw I have and use the AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G IF ED VR II (at events, on location etc) however in the studio my Vintage (circa 1986) AF 70-210mm f/4 Nikkor pays the bills... Just so you don't brand me as a "talking head", below please find a capture with this epic AF 70-210 f/4 vintage optic...

Tag you're it... i.e. now who's talking head billnikon... lol
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Wonderful use of a old outdated Nikon lens. Congratulations on a job well done.

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Nov 15, 2020 17:29:47   #
User ID
 
TriX wrote:
When you’re in a low light, high ISO situation, or you really want an OOF background for subject isolation, every stop counts. Portrait photographers and journalists often shoot wide open with large aperture lenses, but I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know. There’s a reason Canon makes and sells a fair number of 50 & 85 f1.2 and f1.4 lenses, and Fuji just released an f1.0, and all those research and manufacturing dollars aren’t just spent to acquire marketing hype.

I can easily agree that every stop can be shown to make difference. My remark is meant to say that just becuz a difference can be demonstrated doesn’t mean that it really matters.

At some point “enuf is enuf” and going further on a “becuz we can” basis makes no real improvement.

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Nov 15, 2020 19:52:32   #
Larelain Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC
 
I do African wildlife photography and have tried zoom lense Nikon 200-500, prime lens 300mm and Nikon 600mm. The sharpness with the primes is better than the zooms but because of the constant changing scenes I end up with eye balls of elephants, heads of impala and etc. But with zoom I can frame the situation better. I finally settled on the zoom lens.

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Nov 15, 2020 19:59:22   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Larelain wrote:
I do African wildlife photography and have tried zoom lense Nikon 200-500, prime lens 300mm and Nikon 600mm. The sharpness with the primes is better than the zooms but because of the constant changing scenes I end up with eye balls of elephants, heads of impala and etc. But with zoom I can frame the situation better. I finally settled on the zoom lens.


Very much the same in Florida wetlands. We find that the Nikon 200-500 and the Sony 200-600 allow you to zoom and frame much better than say using a 600 f4.
But, that said, my images from my Sony and Nikon 600 4's top anything shot with either the Nikon or Sony zooms. But not by a whole lot.
I find the Sony 200-600 ideal for Florida wetlands shooting. So I carry the 600 on a a7r4 and have attached to my side the Sony 200-600 on the a9. With these two rigs I am ready for whatever Florida can throw at me.

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Nov 15, 2020 20:05:08   #
Larelain Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC
 
billnikon wrote:
Very much the same in Florida wetlands. We find that the Nikon 200-500 and the Sony 200-600 allow you to zoom and frame much better than say using a 600 f4.
But, that said, my images from my Sony and Nikon 600 4's top anything shot with either the Nikon or Sony zooms. But not by a whole lot.
I find the Sony 200-600 ideal for Florida wetlands shooting. So I carry the 600 on a a7r4 and have attached to my side the Sony 200-600 on the a9. With these two rigs I am ready for whatever Florida can throw at me.
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That makes a lot of sense. My problem is I am bouncing around in a Land Rover with a lot of dust and you tend to not want to change lenses. I rented the Nikon 600mm and took it with me to a trip to Botswana and did get some great pictures and the sharpness was great but carrying this thing was a pain. I would like to buy one but the price is rather steep so I will stick with my Nikon zoom both 80-400 and 200-500.

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Nov 15, 2020 20:35:45   #
hrblaine
 
captivecookie wrote:
Changed to the z system, and now the nifty fifty costs over 500 bucks. Still planning on getting it, just have to save a bit.


I don't remember the exact amout I paid bck in the day but I'm sure it was under a hundred bucks. Harry PS Maybe $85?
















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Nov 15, 2020 20:38:23   #
hrblaine
 
>Who would’ve thought a pillowcase would become the best selling product of the year?

I thought it was the blonde! :-)

Harry

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Nov 15, 2020 20:51:29   #
hrblaine
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I shoot a Canon 7D Mark II and I only have a few primes. The one I use most is the Canon 35mm f/2 IS USM which gives me full frame equivalent angle of view of 56mm. Not only can I get stellar images from it in a variety of lighting situations, but the limitations of a fixed focal length forces me to experiment and to be more creative in my framing. This results in a large number of satisfying images which probably would not have been framed the same way if I had been using a zoom lens.


I shoot mostly primes: 28, 50, 85 etc. My longer lens are zooms, purhased early on: a 70-200 f4, and a 70-300. I like both of them, more than satisfied with 'em when I need some reach. Never used a 135 though.

Harry

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Nov 16, 2020 20:44:44   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Don't worry - the Nikon 50 1.8 S lens is not a 'nifty fifty'. It is a full professional grade lens - probably the best 50 1.8 ever made certainly for anything south of $3500 so when you look at it like that $500 is a bargain - none of the other 'nifty fifties' from the other manufacturers will compete with it - on social media this difference may not matter much but if you want to use it for fine art or professional event shooting - this is a lens to have for sure.

Enjoy it!
-B

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Nov 16, 2020 20:47:32   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...Today's zoom lenses are not your fathers zooms of the film past... billnikon and what makes you think that my father's zoom isn't a match for today's over priced Nikkor Zooms...

While I totally agree that hobbyist are pretty much tethered to VR and Nano Crystal Coatings and such... these "features" matter little to commercial shooters in a studios... Besides all 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms weights in at twice (my father's) AF 70-210 f/4 (actually Nikon's first generation AF tele zoom). This elegant little gem is a joy to shoot... with stellar contrast and acuity (count the eyelashes)

btw I have and use the AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G IF ED VR II (at events, on location etc) however in the studio my Vintage (circa 1986) AF 70-210mm f/4 Nikkor pays the bills... Just so you don't brand me as a "talking head", below please find a capture with this epic AF 70-210 f/4 vintage optic...

Tag you're it... i.e. now who's talking head billnikon... lol
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"...Today's zoom lenses are not your fathers ... (show quote)


Nice shot brotha - I love the character of older lenses - there is something to them for sure. In the end (as you obviously know) lighting is the most important aspect of photography - your shot demonstrates that nicely.
-B

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Nov 19, 2020 11:38:51   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
I have 3 primes. 500mm f/4, 300mm f/2.8, and the 100mm f/2.8 macro. All are L series primes. I may look into that 135mm lens though. It sounds inviting.

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