A crushing defeat: Even if Biden wins the democrats have had a crushing defeat. Rebubs gained seats in the house. Kept the senate,and won most of thye "down" ballot offices. The Dems...

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Even if Biden wins the democrats have had a crushing defeat. Rebubs gained seats in the house. Kept the senate,and won most of thye "down" ballot offices. The Dems will not be able to pass their :"socialist " programws. No major tax increases. no single payer medical plans. No fossil fuel bills.Things have to happen with ballot counting regulations. My rules would be--no ballot counting after midnitghtn election day. And some kind of ballot ID. We have it in CT.- no problem at all.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

boberic wrote:

Even if Biden wins the democrats have had a crushi... (show quote)

My plan would be in person voting on machines that submit the ballot electronically. Here in Ca. We voted on such a machine, all votes entered via touch screen, review is provided for accuracy, ballot is then printed which is reviewed again and then inserted into machine where it is submitted electronically and hard copy is kept for the records.

Triple G

boberic wrote:

Even if Biden wins the democrats have had a crushi... (show quote)

You’re a little premature. Who do you think the independent senators caucus with on a regular basis? Who breaks ties? Look to GA for a run off which may tip the balance to dem.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

letmedance wrote:

My plan would be in person voting on machines that submit the ballot electronically. Here in Ca. We voted on such a machine, all votes entered via touch screen, review is provided for accuracy, ballot is then printed which is reviewed again and then inserted into machine where it is submitted electronically and hard copy is kept for the records.

Go back to paper

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

letmedance wrote:

My plan would be in person voting on machines that submit the ballot electronically. Here in Ca. We voted on such a machine, all votes entered via touch screen, review is provided for accuracy, ballot is then printed which is reviewed again and then inserted into machine where it is submitted electronically and hard copy is kept for the records.

Some kind of in person voting wouold be best. But mail in balloting maybe a reality. If so, there must be a system to verify the legality of those votes. We MUST have some kind of system to guarantee the accuracy of voting. I just can't see how or why any one couold be against this concept.

Triple G

soba1 wrote:

Go back to paper

I’m okay with electronic voting with paper back up. Eight states have no (or inadequate)paper back up systems. I would like that rectified. With going to paper, you have hanging shads problems. That’s a lesson already learned; let’s not regress.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/457168-report-says-eight-states-to-use-paperless-voting-in-2020-despite

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

boberic wrote:

Some kind of in person voting wouold be best. But mail in balloting maybe a reality. If so, there must be a system to verify the legality of those votes. We MUST have some kind of system to guarantee the accuracy of voting. I just can't see how or why any one couold be against this concept.

I have three extra ballots mailed to this year, two of those were for expatriates that have not lived here or voted in the last 25 years. The opportunity existed for me to vote 4 times and I seriously doubt that it would have been discovered. This is where the problem with unsolicited ballots, every voter still on the roles was sent a ballot even if he ihas moved out of state or is resting in Forest Lawn. The opportunity is there for those willing to cheat.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Triple G wrote:

You’re a little premature. Who do you think the independent senators caucus with on a regular basis? Who breaks ties? Look to GA for a run off which may tip the balance to dem.

Exactly right.
The senate is still totally in question

Triple G

letmedance wrote:

I have three extra ballots mailed to this year, two of those were for expatriates that have not lived here or voted in the last 25 years. The opportunity existed for me to vote 4 times and I seriously doubt that it would have been discovered. This is where the problem with unsolicited ballots, every voter still on the roles was sent a ballot even if he ihas moved out of state or is resting in Forest Lawn. The opportunity is there for those willing to cheat.

CA and Judicial Watch must be doing a crappy job of voter roll clean up as mandated if you got such outdated ballots.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/california-to-clean-up-voter-registration-rolls-under-national-voter-registration-act/article_8be90f0a-12a1-11e9-9c66-ffdc0f09f070.html

https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/inside-judicial-watch-california-begins-massive-voter-roll-clean-up/

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Why are so many of you against way that allow more Americans to vote ???

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Why are so many of you against way that allow more Americans to vote ???

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

DennyT wrote:

Why are so many of you against way that allow more Americans to vote ???

ALL americans are allowed to vote, you want to allow fraud. Why?

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

DennyT wrote:

Exactly right.
The senate is still totally in question

Not really ... unless you believe the libertarian swing vote will turn to D.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Triple G wrote:

CA and Judicial Watch must be doing a crappy job of voter roll clean up as mandated if you got such outdated ballots.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/california-to-clean-up-voter-registration-rolls-under-national-voter-registration-act/article_8be90f0a-12a1-11e9-9c66-ffdc0f09f070.html

https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/inside-judicial-watch-california-begins-massive-voter-roll-clean-up/

CA. is a very Blue State and the cleanup would actually leave less mail in Ballots for the harvesters to make votes for their favorite candidates. Harvesting is a welcome invitation to any with bad intent.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

soba1 wrote:

Go back to paper

I didn't vote in person this year, but I always have in the past, and it has always been in California. The "machines" I've been accustomed to, simply held the ballot, and made the ballot item visible while I connected the appropriate broken line. lines. Seems simple enough, and verifiable enough, to me. Also, no chads.