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Flamin Star, and a laser test...
Oct 30, 2020 15:51:07   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
So, I finally got the gumption to get my fanny out last night.
After fooling with a Blue Laser, compared to my Green laser, I think for me, where I am, in a hole surrounded by paranode light burners, and a nearing full Moon (oh Joy!), the blue laser is a little too dim for my eyeballs.
But it does work well with my Main camera. Seems to do less distortion, as you can see.
But for me, it seems to be harder to actually see the beam of blue light. But hey, first night, short test, no fair.
I actually got the blue to use with Binoculars, which I'll do tonight, I'd suppose.

After fooling around, and posting to a friend on the Losmandy forum, I forged ahead and got onto the Flaming Star Nebula and did some Narrowband Imaging in Ha7nm. I ran a bunch of 120 second images, stacked in the Infinity camera program.
Feel free to download and process if you would like.

Le Green a La Polaris 3 seconds. Bazoingo!
Le Green a La Polaris 3 seconds. Bazoingo!...
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Le Blue laser on Polaris 3 seconds. Bazongo!
Le Blue laser on Polaris 3 seconds. Bazongo!...
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Flaming Star Nebula Ha7nm 120s 10 1200s
Flaming Star Nebula Ha7nm 120s 10 1200s...
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Flaming Star Nebula Ha7nm 120s 30 3600s
Flaming Star Nebula Ha7nm 120s 30 3600s...
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Flaming Star Nebula Ha7nm 120s 52 6240s
Flaming Star Nebula Ha7nm 120s 52 6240s...
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My fooling's with the 6240 seconds final image
My fooling's with the 6240 seconds final image...
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Oct 31, 2020 19:06:35   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
Nice Shots SonnyE.
Our eyes are most sensitive to green light so that might explain the difference you see, particularly if both lasers have the same milliwatt output.

Looks like the HA works well on the Flaming star nebula.

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Nov 1, 2020 19:57:22   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Ballard wrote:
Nice Shots SonnyE.
Our eyes are most sensitive to green light so that might explain the difference you see, particularly if both lasers have the same milliwatt output.

Looks like the HA works well on the Flaming star nebula.


They are very close, in certified mW output.

One guy asked why the Green picture looked different than the Blue. (More specifically why the Blue had a darker background.) This was my reply.
I was just trying to give a comparison.

Last time out, I put the Blue laser on my Astro Binoculars for some play, and to see how it worked for observation. I think the Blue is a real winner, as it does not mess up my night vison. Just a nice visual pathway for aiming.
Except for the moon. The obnoxious Moon was so bright it overpowered the poor little laser beam.

But for aiming, and especially during alignment, these narrow beamed lasers are my new favorite tool.
Once in a while, I might have to wait my turn with aircraft, but it's ok, they're moving quick enough it isn't too much of a bother.

Another friend says the Moon is a good time to dust off the narrowband filters. So that was another "push" to roll in the HA7nm Craig recommended to me. It sure pops out the red in the nebula's that the Moon and light pollution messes up.
It's the only narrowband filter I currently have. But the newer filters sure have me drooling...

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Nov 1, 2020 20:14:04   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
SonnyE wrote:
They are very close, in certified mW output.

One guy asked why the Green picture looked different than the Blue. (More specifically why the Blue had a darker background.) This was my reply.
I was just trying to give a comparison.

Last time out, I put the Blue laser on my Astro Binoculars for some play, and to see how it worked for observation. I think the Blue is a real winner, as it does not mess up my night vison. Just a nice visual pathway for aiming.
Except for the moon. The obnoxious Moon was so bright it overpowered the poor little laser beam.

But for aiming, and especially during alignment, these narrow beamed lasers are my new favorite tool.
Once in a while, I might have to wait my turn with aircraft, but it's ok, they're moving quick enough it isn't too much of a bother.

Another friend says the Moon is a good time to dust off the narrowband filters. So that was another "push" to roll in the HA7nm Craig recommended to me. It sure pops out the red in the nebula's that the Moon and light pollution messes up.
It's the only narrowband filter I currently have. But the newer filters sure have me drooling...
They are very close, in certified mW output. br b... (show quote)


Hi SonnyE
I've heard that the narrow band filters are great for light pollution (including Moon light) but you have to take much longer exposures. You can also produce full color (false color) images using HA, O3 and S2 narrow band filters which is what they use for the Hubble pallet. I hope to try it eventually. Currently I've still been working on getting better shots of Mars while it is still pretty close.

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Nov 2, 2020 12:45:20   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Ballard wrote:
Hi SonnyE
I've heard that the narrow band filters are great for light pollution (including Moon light) but you have to take much longer exposures. You can also produce full color (false color) images using HA, O3 and S2 narrow band filters which is what they use for the Hubble pallet. I hope to try it eventually. Currently I've still been working on getting better shots of Mars while it is still pretty close.


That's good to catch as much of Mars as you can. I've been observing the red planet now and then while running a series of images on the telescope. As well as examining the Moon's details.
I got my Astro Binoculars collimated much better, so they don't make my eyes and brain go wonky when looking through them.

I was a bad boy over the weekend.... I found High Point had the Optolong L-extreme filter in stock.
So I made an impulse buy and it's on it's way. So hopefully soon I'll have some new images to share, with better colors.
I've been eyeballing and drooling over this filter for a while now. When I discovered High Point had them in stock, I struck like a rattlesnake.

I'm an old hand at long exposures. But since I've discovered I can do these quick exposure, long runs, I've been trying that.
Hopefully the L-extreme will really pull the color details.

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Nov 4, 2020 08:41:35   #
Marc G Loc: East Grinstead, West Sussex, England
 
SonnyE wrote:
That's good to catch as much of Mars as you can. I've been observing the red planet now and then while running a series of images on the telescope. As well as examining the Moon's details.
I got my Astro Binoculars collimated much better, so they don't make my eyes and brain go wonky when looking through them.

I was a bad boy over the weekend.... I found High Point had the Optolong L-extreme filter in stock.
So I made an impulse buy and it's on it's way. So hopefully soon I'll have some new images to share, with better colors.
I've been eyeballing and drooling over this filter for a while now. When I discovered High Point had them in stock, I struck like a rattlesnake.

I'm an old hand at long exposures. But since I've discovered I can do these quick exposure, long runs, I've been trying that.
Hopefully the L-extreme will really pull the color details.
That's good to catch as much of Mars as you can. I... (show quote)


Hi Sonny

I had some loose change kicking about so bought one of these filters a few weeks ago, Just need some clear skies to try it out. Apparently it is good for blocking some LP & moon glow out too. The main reason I bought it was for reflection nebula & galaxies to where my tri-band blocks a majority of the wave lengths.

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Nov 5, 2020 11:29:57   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Hi Marc!
I checked last night to see if mine had finally been shipped, and it has.
I ordered on Sunday, but the vendor isn't eggzacery the quickest shipper I guess.
Anyway, my hope is to take my images up a notch.
I'm hoping for something like this: https://youtu.be/PHGcQ0HKRlU?t=84
And because I like working with OSC cameras, it's hopefully going to update my imaging.
I've reached the expensive baby steps part of this sport. High cost for small gain.

Edit in: I see I'm going to have bad weather tonight, according to my phone app. I wondered about that this morning.
So I go check on my filter order that was shipped yesterday. When I mined down to the pertinent tracking, I discovered why the skies will be cloudy tonight.
My filter is out for delivery today, USPS. (United States Post Office)

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Nov 5, 2020 21:10:44   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
OK, crappy skies, and the new filter is here.
Supposedly, tomorrow night will be a gooden.

I'm beginning to figure out this weather thing.
A mount takes a month, to a month and a half of weather.
But a filter only costs one night.

So I worked until dark on my BBQ project, and will probably install the filter in the morning to my filter wheel,
Woo-Hoo!

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Nov 11, 2020 07:23:15   #
Marc G Loc: East Grinstead, West Sussex, England
 
Hi Sonny. Im totally with you on the weather related, purchasing of astro equipment front lol

I managed to get out Nov 5th & despite fireworks & 50% managed a pleasing image of which i will post tonight.

What I have found is the filter produces some really ugly halos.
Not massive panda eyes but halos all the same around the brighter red & blue stars.

This meant a lot of additional processing but the filter most certainly does its job

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Nov 11, 2020 20:25:08   #
stepping beyond Loc: usa eastcoast
 
WooHoo that looks really good , give that filter a go , get ya some Sonny.

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