Fact checking goes awry: As many of you have likely seen, Facebook et al are going all-in to 'fact check' every post that would seek to criticize ANY result from the Obama/Biden years.

Tex-s

As many of you have likely seen, Facebook et al are going all-in to 'fact check' every post that would seek to criticize ANY result from the Obama/Biden years. The most prevalent is the gas price / energy policy realm. Every post I've seen the last week has been tagged with a 'fact checker' notice. So I read both the 'fact check' and THEIR sources.

Here is the link to the "fact check" article, supposedly proving certain posts as 'lacking context'.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/15/fact-check-expectation-high-gas-prices-biden-win-lack-context/5962835002/

A small snippet:

[We rate this claim as MISSING CONTEXT based on our research. The image is a real photo of gas prices during the Obama-Biden administration in 2012. However, gas prices had spiked in 2012 due to seasonal demand, among other global factors. Gas prices frequently change and experts say that presidents have little to no control over it. ]

Yet, at the bottom of that article is a cited article:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/06/03/who-can-we-blame-for-higher-gasoline-prices/#681f85ef4306

In this one, cited as 'debunking' the "expect higher prices" posts, yields THIS quote:

[Thank the Frackers

This bonanza of oil and gas was actually created by shale pioneers like George Mitchell, Harold Hamm and Aubrey McClendon. During the Bush Administration, these men were busy combining hydraulic fracturing with horizontal drilling. Their efforts were aided by high oil and natural gas prices, not by government policies.

These men were the primary reason for the oil and gas production renaissance under President Obama. They will be the primary reason for further gains under President Trump.]

Not only did this quote laud MARKET forces solving a problem and not government (go cry leftists), but...

Since Biden has repeatedly promised to end fracking, I'm fairly certain the 'fact check' said policy under Obama was not responsible for the spike in prices, so Biden policy won't be either, but cited an article that said Obama policy was not responsible for the dip in prices after 2012, but fracking WAS. So, if fracking, not Obama policy, lowered prices, how can ending fracking NOT cause prices to go up? Production will fall and demand won't.....

How many people just blindly believe the Facebook appeal to authority? "Fact-checkers say..." ? How many don't read the links? Do we want our President elected by those who won't read?

sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri

The unilateral decision to censor and to block posts is the very reason that the large media corporations need to be broken up.

Simply imagine that you are making a call on your cell phone and someone somewhere is listening to your every word at the moment you speak it and they redact segments, if not all, of your phone call because THEY believe it is contrary to their opinions or opinions of others that they support.

I doubt that we would stand for it yet this is exactly what is happening with our written words and videos.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Tex-s wrote:

As many of you have likely seen, Facebook et al ar... (show quote)

It sure appears that you did, and still do.

ecblackiii Loc: Maryland

Regardless of the excuses made for Obama, on the day he took office the national average gas price was $1.83 per gallon.

National Park

Tex-s wrote:

As many of you have likely seen, Facebook et al ar... (show quote)

Boden has not said he will end fracking. Get your facts straight. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ban-fracking/

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

National Park wrote:

Boden has not said he will end fracking. Get your facts straight. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ban-fracking/

"Boden" has also said he was running for Senate- (making his running mate a Vice Senator ROFL) .

He has demagogued his answers to fit the audience especially on fracking. Just because he said something- doesn't mean he didn't say it. The one thing you can depend on is that he will say anything to get elected, and according to his past record of over 40 years serving himself in the public arena, he will not deliver on his promises.

Now look at Trumps record on his promises...

ecblackiii Loc: Maryland

National Park wrote:

Boden has not said he will end fracking. Get your facts straight. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ban-fracking/

Get your facts straight. Snopes is weaselwording to avoid calling out Biden. On March 20th, for example, there was this exchange during the Democratic debate.

Sanders: "I’m talking about stopping fracking as soon as we possibly can. I’m talking about telling the fossil fuel industry that they are going to stop destroying this planet — no ifs, buts and maybes about it."

Biden: "So am I."

National Park

ecblackiii wrote:

Get your facts straight. Snopes is weaselwording to avoid calling out Biden. On March 20th, for example, there was this exchange during the Democratic debate.

Sanders: "I’m talking about stopping fracking as soon as we possibly can. I’m talking about telling the fossil fuel industry that they are going to stop destroying this planet — no ifs, buts and maybes about it."

Biden: "So am I."

What fact checker do you use? The NY Post?

Tex-s

National Park wrote:

Boden has not said he will end fracking. Get your facts straight. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ban-fracking/

Snopes is just another liberal pseudo-factual site. My facts are not off.

Here are half a dozen or more Biden comments ranging from 'end fracking' to 'end all fossil fuel' Not quotes, mind, but video with audio. And these are not all of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RsyF-E27Sw