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Oct 1, 2020 17:29:09   #
National Park
 
boberic wrote:
You totally miss the point. No matter what Trump did, he did not personaly insult the character of his opponent. He did not tell his opponent to SHUT UP. He did not call him insulting names. Do that in a public meeting with the leader of China of Iraq or the Queen of England THe damage might never be repaired. And if you think that that kind of insult would not have serious consequences you are beyond helpless


If Trump treated leaders of foreign countries the way he treated Biden the foreign leaders would have walked out on him. Trump interrupted Biden 71 times, often with blatant lies. He was beyond rude. Trump was not A President during the debate; he was a rude, bullying candidate who did not comply with the rules of the debate which he agreed to. He was therefore not deserving of the respect normally given to a President. He should have listened to Biden and shut up. Speaking of respect, remember the Republican who yelled “you lie” during an Obama State if the Union address? I don’t recall Republicans complaining about that.

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Oct 1, 2020 17:40:27   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
The correct spelling is MORON, moron.


Oh oh that might get you a warning from admin, it got me one.

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Oct 1, 2020 18:28:23   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
National Park wrote:
If Trump treated leaders of foreign countries the way he treated Biden the foreign leaders would have walked out on him. Trump interrupted Biden 71 times, often with blatant lies. He was beyond rude. Trump was not A President during the debate; he was a rude, bullying candidate who did not comply with the rules of the debate which he agreed to. He was therefore not deserving of the respect normally given to a President. He should have listened to Biden and shut up. Speaking of respect, remember the Republican who yelled “you lie” during an Obama State if the Union address? I don’t recall Republicans complaining about that.
If Trump treated leaders of foreign countries the ... (show quote)


Biden started the brawl with the first interruption and went in to do it another 70 times, Trump then interrupted Biden over 100 times. What names did the President call Biden? What names did The President call Joe?

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Oct 1, 2020 18:29:08   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
The correct spelling is MORON, moron.


The correct spelling could get your hand slapped by Admin.

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Oct 1, 2020 23:06:12   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
boberic wrote:
Biden proved, in only 2 phrases he is incapable of being president. He called the president "A CLOWN" and he told the president "SHUT UP MAN". Were he to be in a meeting with a leader of an enemy country and called that leader A CLOWN and told him to SHUT UP MAM, the meeting would be over. Wars have been started for less. When you insult, an advversary that way no amount of apology would repair the damage. Reardless off the personality of the president. Biden owes the country an apology. THose 2 phrases were the 2 biggest gaffes ever to have been said in a presdential debate.
Biden proved, in only 2 phrases he is incapable of... (show quote)


You might have a point if Trump was a leader of an enemy country...

Wait, you may have a point.

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Oct 1, 2020 23:50:50   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
Drumpf deserved it. To bring up both of Biden's sons in such a derogatory manner is reprehensible. But what can you expect from the orange faced lout, but abuse, disrespect, rudeness, and continual interruptions?

No foreign leader would not feel personally insulted. Leaders lie, attempt to confuse and hide .. things. but will not tolerate personal insults. Biden lost his "cool". That kind of blunder betrays his mental inadequacies.

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Oct 2, 2020 01:14:30   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
boberic wrote:
Biden proved, in only 2 phrases he is incapable of being president. He called the president "A CLOWN" and he told the president "SHUT UP MAN". Were he to be in a meeting with a leader of an enemy country and called that leader A CLOWN and told him to SHUT UP MAM, the meeting would be over. Wars have been started for less. When you insult, an advversary that way no amount of apology would repair the damage. Reardless off the personality of the president. Biden owes the country an apology. THose 2 phrases were the 2 biggest gaffes ever to have been said in a presdential debate.
Biden proved, in only 2 phrases he is incapable of... (show quote)


Don’t worry Kamala will be attending those meetings

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Oct 2, 2020 05:08:55   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
boberic wrote:
When Trump said those things he was not addressing a foreign leader in a public forum. A very big, very important difference


It's been reported that trump's calls to other world leaders have been anything but diplomatic. Supposedly among the worst were those with Australia, Germany and Canada. And no, I cannot prove it but it is what has been reported. You can cite any reason you wish to denigrate Biden but to me, trump deserved that and a lot more. Trump has publicly ridiculed people while in the national spotlight... most un-presidential. "It is what it is".

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Oct 2, 2020 06:31:52   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
boberic wrote:
When Trump said those things he was not addressing a foreign leader in a public forum. A very big, very important difference


You might find this article from Forbes to interesting.... about how behaves in his phone callsper identified, knowledgeable sources from his administration.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/29/stunning-report-alleges-trump-regularly-bullies-us-allies-gets-outplayed-by-enemies-in-phone-calls/#1c8b0a4d3918

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Oct 2, 2020 15:44:05   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Texcaster wrote:
You've missed the only durable debate takeaway ... "Stand back and stand by!"

"Republicans to Trump: Condemn white supremacy now" ("no-brainer territory" ... Jeff Flake 2017)

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/30/chris-christie-defends-trump-debate-423610


"Stand back and stand by!"


From wikepedia;

In late November 2018, it was reported the FBI had classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism.[12][31] Two weeks later at an FBI briefing in Clark County, Washington, law enforcement officials denied that it was their intent to classify the entire group in this manner and ascribed the mistake to a misunderstanding. During the briefing, FBI agents suggested using websites for more information, including the SPLC resource.[31][32] The official said that their intent was to characterize the possible threat from certain members of the group.[33]

It seems that the FBI can't make up their mind on this group.

Not sure I've ever heard of them before this....but I bet there more than a few of these types of groups representing different populations or views in the US. I have better things to do with my time than to track them.

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Oct 2, 2020 17:37:06   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
hondo812 wrote:
From wikepedia;

In late November 2018, it was reported the FBI had classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism.[12][31] Two weeks later at an FBI briefing in Clark County, Washington, law enforcement officials denied that it was their intent to classify the entire group in this manner and ascribed the mistake to a misunderstanding. During the briefing, FBI agents suggested using websites for more information, including the SPLC resource.[31][32] The official said that their intent was to characterize the possible threat from certain members of the group.[33]

It seems that the FBI can't make up their mind on this group.

Not sure I've ever heard of them before this....but I bet there more than a few of these types of groups representing different populations or views in the US. I have better things to do with my time than to track them.
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... and so what. Apparently they (PB) don't dress up in camo either. They and the other armed gangs of authoritarian vigilantes are always looking for opportunities to kick ass and prance about like they're very important bad-asses.

(just quietly, PB is incel central so we have profound wiggyness onboard just for openers)

Trump has courted armed fringe ratbags of all stripes from day one. Indeed they found each other via Trump's long ugly birther campaign.

"Dude whack someone on 5th Ave! We don't care!" armed birther ratbags

Mr Babylon said ... "I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad," Mr DJT suggesting his people are 'standing by' awaiting his signal.

The Poor Buggers and the others are the cured forest floor litter that needs a good raking but Trump likes playing with fire.

Trump's 2020 creature has been coddled and coaxed and sweet talked for a long long time.



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Oct 2, 2020 18:13:01   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Politico?
What a farce.


Can you name a more factual and less biased source? Of course you can't you drooling inept boob.

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Oct 2, 2020 18:31:28   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Texcaster wrote:
Can you name a more factual and less biased source? Of course you can't you drooling inept boob.


How do you really feel about archie?

LoL


He is one of our more special caricature cases!

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Oct 11, 2020 16:42:52   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
boberic wrote:
Biden proved, in only 2 phrases he is incapable of being president. He called the president "A CLOWN" and he told the president "SHUT UP MAN". Were he to be in a meeting with a leader of an enemy country and called that leader A CLOWN and told him to SHUT UP MAM, the meeting would be over. Wars have been started for less. When you insult, an advversary that way no amount of apology would repair the damage. Reardless off the personality of the president. Biden owes the country an apology. THose 2 phrases were the 2 biggest gaffes ever to have been said in a presdential debate.
Biden proved, in only 2 phrases he is incapable of... (show quote)


It is my sincere belief that Biden gave T Rump more respect that he was due.
I watched that debate. Twice.
I thought of many many more phrases Joe could have used ...

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