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Aug 25, 2020 13:41:05   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
DaveO wrote:
Even a bigger question is the validity of Trump's claims. Come on IRS!


When do you post your returns?

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Aug 25, 2020 15:08:05   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
I don't think Mr. Biden is a financial idiot at all. He has done very well for himself and his family and stayed out of jail. I think he has mastered financial politics excellently and that requires some small amount of intelligence.

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Aug 25, 2020 15:11:15   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Amielee wrote:
I don't think Mr. Biden is a financial idiot at all. He has done very well for himself and his family and stayed out of jail. I think he has mastered financial politics excellently and that requires some small amount of intelligence.



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Aug 25, 2020 15:24:59   #
FrumCA
 
Amielee wrote:
I don't think Mr. Biden is a financial idiot at all. He has done very well for himself and his family and stayed out of jail. I think he has mastered financial politics excellently and that requires some small amount of intelligence.


Taxing your way to prosperity won't work. Just sayin'.

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Aug 25, 2020 15:27:57   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
FrumCA wrote:
Taxing your way to prosperity won't work. Just sayin'.


Giving big breaks to big business doesn't either.

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Aug 25, 2020 15:32:22   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
travelwp wrote:
Bankruptcies are a normal part of business. The real question is what has Biden done for his voters in the last 50 years he has been in office. (Just show 3 or 4, don't fill the page).

For the record, these businesses filed for bankruptcy in 2020, so far:

Stein Mart (Aug. 12)
Tailored Brands (Aug. 2)
Lord & Taylor (Aug. 2)
Ascena (July 23)
The Paper Store (July 14)
RTW Retailwinds (July 13)
Muji USA (July 10)
Sur La Table (July 8)
Brooks Brothers (July 8)
G-Star Raw (July 3)
Lucky Brand (July 3)
GNC (June 23)
Tuesday Morning (May 27)
Centric Brands (May 18)
J.C. Penney (May 15)
Stage Stores (May 11)
Aldo (May 7)
Neiman Marcus (May 7)
J. Crew (May 4)
Roots USA (April 29)
True Religion (April 13)
Modell's Sporting Goods (March 11)
Art Van Furniture (March 9)
Bluestem Brands (March 9)
Bankruptcies are a normal part of business. The r... (show quote)

All of these companies filed for bankruptcies under the trump administration's watch.

The economy tanked under trump, not under Biden!

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Aug 25, 2020 15:38:25   #
FrumCA
 
DaveO wrote:
Giving big breaks to big business doesn't either.

In certain cases I might agree with you. I would need to see some examples of what sort of breaks you are referring to before committing one way or the other.

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Aug 25, 2020 15:46:05   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
FrumCA wrote:
In certain cases I might agree with you. I would need to see some examples of what sort of breaks you are referring to before committing one way or the other.


A general statement will suffice seeing that Congress couldn't come to a conclusion on specifics that could be agreed upon. We heard of some the aftermath with unsurprising stock buy backs, who theoretically benefitted from which cuts, etc. There is no one solution when assessing what the tax structuring should consist of. I would not pretend to have answers.

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Aug 25, 2020 15:53:37   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
FrumCA wrote:
In certain cases I might agree with you. I would need to see some examples of what sort of breaks you are referring to before committing one way or the other.


So where were you in the first six months of 2017.......in a coma?

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Aug 25, 2020 16:18:11   #
FrumCA
 
Kraken wrote:
So where were you in the first six months of 2017.......in a coma?

Still being a wise-a$$ I see. The Tax Reform Act was not a perfect solution to the complex 70k + tax code but it did generate some benefit. And there are still issues. So what is your point? Just know in advance that I don't plan on debating OUR entire tax code with you.

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Aug 25, 2020 16:31:42   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
FrumCA wrote:
Still being a wise-a$$ I see. The Tax Reform Act was not a perfect solution to the complex 70k + tax code but it did generate some benefit. And there are still issues. So what is your point? Just know in advance that I don't plan on debating OUR entire tax code with you.


Exactly!

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Aug 25, 2020 16:40:49   #
Rose42
 
National Park wrote:
How many bankruptcies had Biden had?


Not every idiot out there has had bankruptcies.

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Aug 25, 2020 17:23:32   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
boberic wrote:
In his latest proclamation Biden has said he will not raise taxes on anyone earning over $400 thousand per year. Sounds good right? But it ignores a few things. Many very wealthy people don't earn that taxable amount. Most of their wealth is not in income, but in net worth. Someone worth 10 million is very wealthy. But tyhey do NOT earn that much on a yearly basis. Some with much more net worth will simply choose to earn less taxable income. A billionaire does not earn a billion every year. Their money is invested in various things. Tyhat money is in stock, real estate etc. They can send money overseasw, as many did, but Trump's policies brought much of it back. They can invest in offshore companies and have no taxable income. Those very wealthyy people can hire very good tax lawyers so as to avoid taxable income. In fact the government will collect less tax money as a result. That policy is just an attempt to mislead the dem voters (some of which) do not know the difference between a stock and a bond. Furthermore muc earned income is not taxable as income but in capital gain, which carries a much lowere tax rate.
In his latest proclamation Biden has said he will ... (show quote)


It seems he know finances way better than you do.

You seem to be confusing "Income" with "Salary". Granted, it is true that for most people Salary pretty much equals Income, while for the very rich, salary deliberately makes up only a tiny portion of income.

BUT, only Social Security taxes are based on salary. The Income tax is based on, well, Income. It doesn't matter where it comes from (salary, interest, dividends, lottery, poker, etc), it's taxable (as soon as it enters the country; if you earn it off-shore, and spend it there, you can beat the tax)

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Aug 25, 2020 17:26:46   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
travelwp wrote:
Bankruptcies are a normal part of business. The real question is what has Biden done for his voters in the last 50 years he has been in office. (Just show 3 or 4, don't fill the page).

For the record, these businesses filed for bankruptcy in 2020, so far:

Stein Mart (Aug. 12)
Tailored Brands (Aug. 2)
Lord & Taylor (Aug. 2)
Ascena (July 23)
The Paper Store (July 14)
RTW Retailwinds (July 13)
Muji USA (July 10)
Sur La Table (July 8)
Brooks Brothers (July 8)
G-Star Raw (July 3)
Lucky Brand (July 3)
GNC (June 23)
Tuesday Morning (May 27)
Centric Brands (May 18)
J.C. Penney (May 15)
Stage Stores (May 11)
Aldo (May 7)
Neiman Marcus (May 7)
J. Crew (May 4)
Roots USA (April 29)
True Religion (April 13)
Modell's Sporting Goods (March 11)
Art Van Furniture (March 9)
Bluestem Brands (March 9)
Bankruptcies are a normal part of business. The r... (show quote)


Yes bankruptcy is part of business ... for failures..

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Aug 25, 2020 17:38:21   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Amielee wrote:
I don't think Mr. Biden is a financial idiot at all. He has done very well for himself and his family and stayed out of jail. I think he has mastered financial politics excellently and that requires some small amount of intelligence.


He’s done really good by Hunter and friends. Wonder how many more millions he plans to extract by bribery if he became President? Probably like Clintons it will increase to billions.

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