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Jul 15, 2020 14:50:48   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
I don't intend to diminish the seriousness of covid 19 but the seasonal flue kills about 100,000 people every year in the US. No panic=- no shut down- little or no effect n the economy. Covid 19 has killed about 30% more than the . seasonal flu. Just something to think about. Nobody accused Obama when something over 3/4 of a million people died while he was in office, of the seasonalflu Again, something to think about

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Jul 15, 2020 14:59:39   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
boberic wrote:
I don't intend to diminish the seriousness of covid 19 but the seasonal flue kills about 100,000 people every year in the US. No panic=- no shut down- little or no effect n the economy. Covid 19 has killed about 30% more than the . seasonal flu. Just something to think about. Nobody accused Obama when something over 3/4 of a million people died while he was in office, of the seasonalflu Again, something to think about


Who told you that? Trump and Lou Dobbs?

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Jul 15, 2020 15:43:15   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
boberic wrote:
I don't intend to diminish the seriousness of covid 19 but the seasonal flue kills about 100,000 people every year in the US.


In 2017, there were over 800,000 killed by abortion, no panic, no shutdown. Lots of people die each year.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:50:36   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
Well this year there weren't as many flu cases.
Looks like they were simply re-named to covid.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:59:10   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Well this year there weren't as many flu cases.
Looks like they were simply re-named to covid.



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Jul 15, 2020 16:02:54   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Texcaster wrote:
Who told you that? Trump and Lou Dobbs?


Typical. Just look up the stats. Maybe you should do that before you prove your bias. The stats are easily available. Roughly 100,000 per year=800,000 in 8 years. Maybe you should learn simple arithmatic. And SARS (while Obama was in office) killed more than 100,000. SARS actually killed 138,000. about the same as covid

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Jul 15, 2020 16:18:53   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Well this year there weren't as many flu cases.
Looks like they were simply re-named to covid.


The past year had an upswing that does not confirm the numbers being stated in this thread. Also, the fatality numbers associated with Covid are only the tip of the iceberg when the associated maladies are considered. Here is one reliable source and others are easy enough to find.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

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Jul 15, 2020 17:07:18   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
DaveO wrote:
The past year had an upswing that does not confirm the numbers being stated in this thread. Also, the fatality numbers associated with Covid are only the tip of the iceberg when the associated maladies are considered. Here is one reliable source and others are easy enough to find.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/


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Jul 15, 2020 17:21:25   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
2018-19 flu deaths in 34,000

So far covid death in slightly over 6 months 130,000.

There is vaccine for the flu

There is no vaccine fir covis.

Covid can be transmitted asymptomatically . Flu can not.

Really stupid to compare the two!!

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Jul 15, 2020 17:24:26   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
DaveO wrote:
The past year had an upswing that does not confirm the numbers being stated in this thread. Also, the fatality numbers associated with Covid are only the tip of the iceberg when the associated maladies are considered. Here is one reliable source and others are easy enough to find.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/


I don't understand exactly what associated maladies mean. You have to consider that many (most) of those who died were over 75, and had underlying conditions. Many died in Nursing homes, or othyer long term facilities. Most of those who died there were"killed" by irresponsible governors. Mantbwho died were quite "fragile" almost any illness might have killed them. And from a very technical point of view covid might not have been the actual cause of death. A patient who became febrile might have died at the same time he/she had the virus, and might hyave died any way. But that fatality was defined as covid 19 But thyere is no way to know if the virus was or was not thye C.O.D, And BTW the % of people under 20 , dying is less thyan'1/2 of 1 %. As such there is virtually no reason, other than political. To not open the schools. NONE.

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Jul 15, 2020 17:26:00   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
“ Mantbwho died were quite "fragile" almost any illness might have killed them. “

Covid DID kill them !

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Jul 15, 2020 17:37:58   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
boberic wrote:
I don't understand exactly what associated maladies mean. You have to consider that many (most) of those who died were over 75, and had underlying conditions. Many died in Nursing homes, or othyer long term facilities. Most of those who died there were"killed" by irresponsible governors. Mantbwho died were quite "fragile" almost any illness might have killed them. And from a very technical point of view covid might not have been the actual cause of death. A patient who became febrile might have died at the same time he/she had the virus, and might hyave died any way. But that fatality was defined as covid 19 But thyere is no way to know if the virus was or was not thye C.O.D, And BTW the % of people under 20 , dying is less thyan'1/2 of 1 %. As such there is virtually no reason, other than political. To not open the schools. NONE.
I don't understand exactly what associated maladie... (show quote)


Associated maladies would be the non-fatal medical problems that can occur as a result of the virus. I'm sure you know there is quite a list. Suffice to say that much of what we read will not end up as hard facts and at this point some of the issues are speculatory while others are not.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/evidence-table.html

Point being, with the available information, fatalities are only part of the problem.

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Jul 15, 2020 17:40:08   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
boberic wrote:
Typical. Just look up the stats. Maybe you should do that before you prove your bias. The stats are easily available. Roughly 100,000 per year=800,000 in 8 years. Maybe you should learn simple arithmatic. And SARS (while Obama was in office) killed more than 100,000. SARS actually killed 138,000. about the same as covid


100K per annum sounds a little high. Most sources estimate 25-80K per year.

They are estimates though. When was the last time anyone had a test to determine that they had the flu?

And why compare to the flu...covid is not the flu.

We are basically 3 months in (I know january is a good start point...but the covid did not really start rolling till March) with going in 140K dead and you want to compare that to 12 month flu death toll of 25-80K?

Really?

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Jul 15, 2020 17:51:56   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
boberic wrote:
Typical. Just look up the stats. Maybe you should do that before you prove your bias. The stats are easily available. Roughly 100,000 per year=800,000 in 8 years. Maybe you should learn simple arithmatic. And SARS (while Obama was in office) killed more than 100,000. SARS actually killed 138,000. about the same as covid


As long as you want to throw the political crap into the bag, check out the increased number of flu deaths under the liar's presidency. Is it not possible to pose a question and keep stupid the political shit out? Rhetorically speaking.

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Jul 15, 2020 17:57:52   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
mwalsh wrote:
100K per annum sounds a little high. Most sources estimate 25-80K per year.

They are estimates though. When was the last time anyone had a test to determine that they had the flu?


About 90 thousand died in 2019. And when you include the 135,000 killed by SARS the average for the 8 years of Obama the total approaches something close to 3/4 million

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