The same reason as a professional portrait photographer I don't "shoot" someone.
I photograph them.
Words can say a lot about you. Choose what words you use very carefully.
montephoto wrote:
The same reason as a professional portrait photographer I don't "shoot" someone.
I photograph them.
Words can say a lot about you. Choose what words you use very carefully.
Oh, maybe I should have said "I'd like to
capture you and your handsome new husband with my camera so I can
immortalize this special day." Then I could have raised my prices!
Give me a break. In my career I "shot" over 150 weddings, and surprise, surprise: my clients cared about my respect for their once-in-a-lifetime event and the quality of my images, and could not have cared less about what words I used for the process or the results. Your reputation is made by your demeanor, expertise, level of customer service, and delivering the goods.
To all my esteemed colleagues: do great work, give your customers joy, have fun, and keep on
shootin' 'til ya cain't shoot namore!
>Alan
Howard5252 wrote:
I thought it did sort of leave the original topic, what a shame. BTW did you know that in the word fresnel (as in fresnel lens), the letter s is silent? :-) :-) :-0 :-)
Ever since I took theatre classes in high school... Fresnels are theatrical lighting instruments that use fresnel lenses. Fren-ell.
larryepage wrote:
Nope, It's named for its developer, Augustin-Jean Fresnel. He was a French physicist who developed the fresnel lens to improve the visibility of lighthouse lanterns. Others had come up with the concept, but he made it work.
Every lighthouse I've ever seen has a fresnel lens in it. And most of the tour guides had no idea how to pronounce it.
mg1962 wrote:
I do not use any type of enhancement software. My photos are printed at a photo kiosk SSOC.
If you're using a film camera to send negative film to a kiosk lab, they're using software to interpret the negatives and come up with a color balance and density.
If you're sending a JPEG from the camera to a kiosk, the camera uses firmware to process the image according to the menu settings you selected (or failed to select, instead blindly accepting the camera manufacturer's defaults). So YOU in effect processed the image by choosing/accepting menu settings.
If you are making slides on a 'chrome film, then that is the closest thing to "straight out of camera" with no manipulation (just E6 processing, but there again, you can pull or push the film, or use the wrong process for special effect, or...).
"Straight out of the camera" is not a very useful term.
reverand wrote:
For the same reason that people who teach "comic books" call them "graphic novels," and people who write about "movies" call them "films." It's an attempt to elevate the thing you're talking about. Similarly, if somebody keels over in front of you holding his chest, you're likely to think he had a "heart attack," while a doctor would call it a "cardiac arrest." Incidentally, both "heart" and "attack" are Anglo-Saxon words: "Cardiac" an "arrest" both come from Latin.
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My pre-med roomie in college used to say a "heart attack" was a good description of a stabbing murder. "Cardiac arrest" is derived from Latin and basically means "heart stoppage". But we still know what a heart attack is...
burkphoto wrote:
Ever since I took theatre classes in high school... Fresnels are theatrical lighting instruments that use fresnel lenses. Fren-ell.
Used them in studios throughout my TV career. It didn't take me long to learn how to pronounce the name and that, without diffusion, they were completely unsuitable for our requirements. Your post caused me to look up the back story. Interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lensBest wishes,
AL
burkphoto wrote:
If you're using a film camera to send negative film to a kiosk lab, they're using software to interpret the negatives and come up with a color balance and density.
If you're sending a JPEG from the camera to a kiosk, the camera uses firmware to process the image according to the menu settings you selected (or failed to select, instead blindly accepting the camera manufacturer's defaults). So YOU in effect processed the image by choosing/accepting menu settings.
If you are making slides on a 'chrome film, then that is the closest thing to "straight out of camera" with no manipulation (just E6 processing, but there again, you can pull or push the film, or use the wrong process for special effect, or...).
"Straight out of the camera" is not a very useful term.
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It's helpful as it is
commonly used, to mean no post production.
Never underestimate the influence of "common use" in language. For example, being of a certain age I pronounce February with an "R." That is almost completely gone in favor of FEB-yoo-ehry (Check it out with almost any radio or TV news personality). It is "widely accepted."
Common use is also the reason:
- NOO-kyoo-lahr is an acceptable alternate pronunciation to NOO-klee-ahr, and
- Irregardless is a legitimate word.
All references are from Merriam Webster online.
I strongly suspect most of us share an understanding of what SOTC means in common use without needing to dissect it.
>Alan
aellman wrote:
It's helpful as it is commonly used, to mean no post production.
Never underestimate the influence of "common use" in language. For example, being of a certain age I pronounce February with an "R." That is almost completely gone in favor of FEB-yoo-ehry (Check it out with almost any radio or TV news personality). It is "widely accepted."
Common use is also the reason:
- NOO-kyoo-lahr is an acceptable alternate pronunciation to NOO-klee-ahr, and
- Irregardless is a legitimate word.
All references are from Merriam Webster online.
I strongly suspect most of us share an understanding of what SOTC means in common use without needing to dissect it.
>Alan
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Just like torn jeans and outlandish hairstyles are the hallmark of today's anti establishment hippie culture, so the English language becomes more and more degraded by lazy speech and the acceptance of slang and grotesque "valleyspeak". . . .
aellman wrote:
Used them in studios throughout my TV career. It didn't take me long to learn how to pronounce the name and that, without diffusion, they were completely unsuitable for our requirements. Your post caused me to look up the back story. Interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lensBest wishes,
AL
Most direct + reflected, not diffused sources aren’t great for photography or video/TV work. I’m just glad we live in the age of LED panels.
aellman wrote:
It's helpful as it is commonly used, to mean no post production.
Never underestimate the influence of "common use" in language. For example, being of a certain age I pronounce February with an "R." That is almost completely gone in favor of FEB-yoo-ehry (Check it out with almost any radio or TV news personality). It is "widely accepted."
Common use is also the reason:
- NOO-kyoo-lahr is an acceptable alternate pronunciation to NOO-klee-ahr, and
- Irregardless is a legitimate word.
All references are from Merriam Webster online.
I strongly suspect most of us share an understanding of what SOTC means in common use without needing to dissect it.
>Alan
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Probably so, but newbies make assumptions based on others’ inaccurate usage of terminology. As a trainer, and content developer, I’m acutely aware of that — and my responsibility to be sure folks understand what is really happening — and not what they think they heard.
Once I saw a sales rep lose a big account because his employee didn’t fully understand the terms she was given when he trained her, based on HIS misunderstanding of them... I knew one of my deeper roles.
FotoHog wrote:
Just like torn jeans and outlandish hairstyles are the hallmark of today's anti establishment hippie culture, so the English language becomes more and more degraded by lazy speech and the acceptance of slang and grotesque "valleyspeak". . . .
You are so right, and I'm like outraged at the degradation. My daughter typically says, "I'm like, and she was like, and he was like, etc. I once challenged her to speak for one minute without using the word like. She couldn't do it. I'm like outa here. >Alan
Photo: Like daughter Alyssa (29) and her rescue dog. Photo by
Boston Herald staff.
aellman wrote:
You are so right, and I'm like outraged at the degradation. My daughter typically says, "I'm like, and she was like, and he was like, etc. I once challenged her to speak for one minute without using the word like. She couldn't do it. I'm like outa here. >Alan
Photo: Like daughter Alyssa (29) and her rescue dog. Photo by Boston Herald staff.
I feel your pain. My almost 30 year-old daughter is very intelligent, but you would never know it from hearing, “like... like... like...”.
burkphoto wrote:
I feel your pain. My almost 30 year-old daughter is very intelligent, but you would never know it from hearing, “like... like... like...”.
I spend a lot of time with kids. The big problem is that it's, like, contagious.
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