Where are your printer ink cartridges and toners made ?
May 5, 2020 23:22:00 #
I agree 100%. Given the circumstances involved, I think dependence on anyone but ourselves for critical products in foolish. The world is not an orderly playground, but a contentious mess and we forget that at our peril.
May 6, 2020 11:49:12 #
SteveG wrote:
I'll gladly pay a little more for the return of that good ol' label, "MADE IN THE USA!". Or, at least to someone that isn't our mortal enemy.
It's very complicated. When most production switched to China, did you notice a big drop in prices? I didn't. What you might have noticed, if you had access, was the increased profit made by companies, CEOs, and stockholders. When production costs drop, don't expect a drop in prices. When there is even a hint of trouble in the Middle East, gas prices rise. People who run the big companies want all the income, bonuses, and benefits they can get - any way they can get it. Workers are an unfortunate, necessary cog in the machine that generates money. The idea that a company can't afford to pay a living wage to its workers is ridiculous.
May 6, 2020 13:02:40 #
May 6, 2020 13:04:09 #
jerryc41 wrote:
It's very complicated. When most production switc... (show quote)
I noticed that too but why did people buy it? I didn't. I don't blame the companies I blame it on the consumers. If you don't buy it they wouldn't do it.
May 6, 2020 13:07:14 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I noticed that too but why did people buy it? I didn't. I don't blame the companies I blame it on the consumers. If you don't buy it they wouldn't do it.
In some instances, it would be either buy it or do without.
May 6, 2020 13:17:02 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
A company that makes most of the glass replacement in our cars here bought by Chinese.
Mitch McConnell made a deal to have a Russian company into his state with
aluminum manufacturing. Wasn't he here when they messed with a election?
Mitt Romney running for President and being in the buying companies in trouble
said "let the car manufacturers all go out of business" .Legislators encouraged by
lobbyists to make moving your company out of US a really good deal. No one
in Washington or states saying we shouldn't let that be made overseas. It is
a national and economic patriotic duty to have our own manufacturing.
Steel and some many of our major resources were driven out of business.
We are victims of ourselves. We let an American company Apple produce
all of their communication products overseas. It could have been a
compromise but our leaders should have been patriots instead of
greed driven. And we are a disgrace in not making our educational
system excellent to create smarts and skills for the future.
Mitch McConnell made a deal to have a Russian company into his state with
aluminum manufacturing. Wasn't he here when they messed with a election?
Mitt Romney running for President and being in the buying companies in trouble
said "let the car manufacturers all go out of business" .Legislators encouraged by
lobbyists to make moving your company out of US a really good deal. No one
in Washington or states saying we shouldn't let that be made overseas. It is
a national and economic patriotic duty to have our own manufacturing.
Steel and some many of our major resources were driven out of business.
We are victims of ourselves. We let an American company Apple produce
all of their communication products overseas. It could have been a
compromise but our leaders should have been patriots instead of
greed driven. And we are a disgrace in not making our educational
system excellent to create smarts and skills for the future.
May 6, 2020 13:19:24 #
Tomcat5133 wrote:
A company that makes most of the glass replacement... (show quote)
(Key operator: greed.)
May 6, 2020 13:27:30 #
Longshadow wrote:
In some instances, it would be either buy it or do without.
You had choices when they started doing it. It was that time that was important. A few stared to outsource and most people buy from the competitors then they had to stop. But people chose to buy from them to save a few bucks so the others had to follow. It’s all market driven.
May 6, 2020 14:14:26 #
However, I think the problem is that most American didn't know that the products they bought were made in China. In the beginning there were almost none Chinese branded products and even today they are few. Most of the products that are made in China have brands in other countries. For example Iphone are made in China but it's an American brand. This is not the same as when the Japanese started to compete. People could tell easily that the Sony and the Panasonic were not American. Today most if not all PC made by HP and Dell are made in China and yet Lenovo, a Chinese brand, some of them were made in the USA. But although Lenovo does good business with corporate buyers they don't sell a lot to consumers compared to HP and Dell. It's the people in the USA don't pay attention to where the products they buy came from.
May 6, 2020 14:16:33 #
BebuLamar wrote:
You had choices when they started doing it. It was that time that was important. A few stared to outsource and most people buy from the competitors then they had to stop. But people chose to buy from them to save a few bucks so the others had to follow. It’s all market driven.
And everyone wants the lowest price, regardless.
May 6, 2020 14:46:40 #
About ten years ago I started looking at where items were made, when that information was available. If I could avoid it, I didn't buy, and still don't buy imported items if there is a choice, especially from China. And that is not a racial comment: my German mother was actually born in China and loved the people.
May 6, 2020 15:26:27 #
adamsg wrote:
About ten years ago I started looking at where items were made, when that information was available. If I could avoid it, I didn't buy, and still don't buy imported items if there is a choice, especially from China. And that is not a racial comment: my German mother was actually born in China and loved the people.
I guess because you have German mother so you look at where the items made. I noticed that in Germany and Japan people know where the stuff they buy came from and put a value on that. Not that they don't buy Chinese stuff but they bought them knowingly that by doing so saving them money. They do in fact value stuff made in Germany and Japan more.
When I went to Japan I saw they have a lot of fabrics made in the USA in stores. More so than in the US. They labelled the shelf for USA fabrics so you know just by browsing the stores. In contrast if I go into Best Buys and ask to check out a laptop. The guy would probably know a lot about it like processor, memory, SSD etc.. but if I asked where is was made I would have a dirty look.
May 6, 2020 15:45:30 #
Quite a sad commentary on the mentality of too many salespeople. They don't want to bother with your questions, just with making the sale as quickly as possible.
May 6, 2020 20:56:16 #
chrissybabe wrote:
Just a word to the wise if your answer to any of t... (show quote)
I heard that within the year they're going to be making them with 3d printers on the International Space Station. Delivery times will be long, and they will be a bit pricey, but the quality will be unsurpassed!
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