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Apr 29, 2020 09:54:43   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
LWW wrote:
Trump's golf expenditures are ridiculous, as were Obama's and pretty much every POTUS following Truman.


How gracious of you to say that considering how unbalanced your statement is.

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Apr 29, 2020 09:58:49   #
Rose42
 
Kraken wrote:
How gracious of you to say that considering how unbalanced your statement is.


Now you're emulating a combination of LWW and Frank. LOL!!! Its lose/lose for you.

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Apr 29, 2020 10:30:52   #
FrumCA
 
Frank T wrote:
Whatever the figures are really doesn't matter. When Trump takes a golfing trip, the United States Government pays the Trump resort for its use along with other related expenditures, like meals for the Secret Service, golf carts, and so forth. Kim Jung Un must be very proud of the Orange Moron.

Yup. The Government has also paid for the vacations for presidents, first ladies, and families and their associated expenses since time immemorial. You must be very proud of yourself for not knowing that!!

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Apr 29, 2020 10:31:53   #
FrumCA
 
thom w wrote:
Trump’s Golf Trips Could Cost Taxpayers Over $340 Million
Chuck Jones
When he was campaigning President Trump frequently bashed President Obama for playing golf and said that he would be too busy to play. Per a HuffPost article he said, “I love golf, but if I were in the White House, I don’t think I’d ever see Turnberry again. I don’t think I’d ever see Doral again,” he told a rally audience in February 2016, referring to his course near the Miami airport. “I don’t ever think I’d see anything. I just want to stay in the White House and work my ass off.”
It took less than two weeks before he broke that promise vs. Obama not playing his first round until he had been in office for about three months and Obama didn’t visit a course outside of the DC area until August 2009, seven months after his inauguration. One reason Trump has been able to play so much golf is that he inherited an economy that was in very good shape vs. Obama taking office in the teeth of the Great Recession.

As can be seen in the chart below from trumpgolfcount.com, Trump has played at least 88 rounds of golf since he became President, has likely played 139 and has visited golf courses over 193 days. These compare to Obama’s 76 outings over the same timeframe.
Trump's golf outings

Trump’s golf trips have almost exclusively been to his properties. Below is a breakdown of Trump’s visits.

Trump golf outings over 2 and a half years

1 of 193 outings were to the President’s Cup
2 of 193 outings were in Japan
3 of 193 outings were at Trump’s Ireland course
190 of 193 outings were to Trump’s golf properties
20 flights to Bedminster, New Jersey, to visit Trump’s course
24 flights to Mar-a-Lago
At his current pace Trump will visit his golf properties about 310 times and if he is re-elected it would 620.
So far Trump’s golf trips have cost at least $105 million

Trump’s trips to his golf courses are very expensive and much more than Obama’s since Trump’s have been more frequent and usually requires Air Force One and all the accompanying security arraignments.

From a combination of an analysis from the HuffPost, the GAO or General Accounting Office, Politico and the Washington Post using costs from both Obama and Trump golf trips the estimated cost of Trump’s visits so far come to a range of $105 to $108 million. When you extrapolate the $105 million estimate to eight years, assuming Trump is re-elected, the total cost is over $340 million.
The GAO report estimated that just four of Trump’s trips to Mar-a-Lago cost:

$13.6 million
Do not “capture all of the total expenditures by the government”
Do not “include certain classified cost information”
$60,000 in expenses paid to Mar-a-Lago (there have been 24 so far)
Were not able to identify meals and incidental expenses, if any, that may have been incurred at the Mar-a-Lago club
To put $340 million into perspective it is:

106 times Trump’s $400,000 salary over 8 years combined (which he is donating back to the government)
Almost twice the $190 million annual cost for the Peace Corps
$25 million more than the $315 million annual cost for the General Accounting Office
About 10 times the approximately $35 million cost of the Mueller investigation
But in reality Mueller’s team brought in more than it spent due to acquiring enough of Manafort’s assets to more than pay the full cost.

You're welcome.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/07/10/trumps-golf-trips-could-cost-taxpayers-over-340-million/#3304b9c028aa
Trump’s Golf Trips Could Cost Taxpayers Over $340 ... (show quote)

Oh the horrors of it all!!

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Apr 29, 2020 10:36:10   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
Don't flatter yourself.


No.... no flattery, but I may have to protect myself, wonder if the admin will issue a restraining order...... Hmmm.

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Apr 29, 2020 10:48:17   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Kraken wrote:
How gracious of you to say that considering how unbalanced your statement is.


I apologize that I couldn't stupid it down enough for you.

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Apr 29, 2020 11:09:33   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
thom w wrote:
Trump’s Golf Trips Could Cost Taxpayers Over $340 Million
Chuck Jones
When he was campaigning President Trump frequently bashed President Obama for playing golf and said that he would be too busy to play. Per a HuffPost article he said, “I love golf, but if I were in the White House, I don’t think I’d ever see Turnberry again. I don’t think I’d ever see Doral again,” he told a rally audience in February 2016, referring to his course near the Miami airport. “I don’t ever think I’d see anything. I just want to stay in the White House and work my ass off.”
It took less than two weeks before he broke that promise vs. Obama not playing his first round until he had been in office for about three months and Obama didn’t visit a course outside of the DC area until August 2009, seven months after his inauguration. One reason Trump has been able to play so much golf is that he inherited an economy that was in very good shape vs. Obama taking office in the teeth of the Great Recession.

As can be seen in the chart below from trumpgolfcount.com, Trump has played at least 88 rounds of golf since he became President, has likely played 139 and has visited golf courses over 193 days. These compare to Obama’s 76 outings over the same timeframe.
Trump's golf outings

Trump’s golf trips have almost exclusively been to his properties. Below is a breakdown of Trump’s visits.

Trump golf outings over 2 and a half years

1 of 193 outings were to the President’s Cup
2 of 193 outings were in Japan
3 of 193 outings were at Trump’s Ireland course
190 of 193 outings were to Trump’s golf properties
20 flights to Bedminster, New Jersey, to visit Trump’s course
24 flights to Mar-a-Lago
At his current pace Trump will visit his golf properties about 310 times and if he is re-elected it would 620.
So far Trump’s golf trips have cost at least $105 million

Trump’s trips to his golf courses are very expensive and much more than Obama’s since Trump’s have been more frequent and usually requires Air Force One and all the accompanying security arraignments.

From a combination of an analysis from the HuffPost, the GAO or General Accounting Office, Politico and the Washington Post using costs from both Obama and Trump golf trips the estimated cost of Trump’s visits so far come to a range of $105 to $108 million. When you extrapolate the $105 million estimate to eight years, assuming Trump is re-elected, the total cost is over $340 million.
The GAO report estimated that just four of Trump’s trips to Mar-a-Lago cost:

$13.6 million
Do not “capture all of the total expenditures by the government”
Do not “include certain classified cost information”
$60,000 in expenses paid to Mar-a-Lago (there have been 24 so far)
Were not able to identify meals and incidental expenses, if any, that may have been incurred at the Mar-a-Lago club
To put $340 million into perspective it is:

106 times Trump’s $400,000 salary over 8 years combined (which he is donating back to the government)
Almost twice the $190 million annual cost for the Peace Corps
$25 million more than the $315 million annual cost for the General Accounting Office
About 10 times the approximately $35 million cost of the Mueller investigation
But in reality Mueller’s team brought in more than it spent due to acquiring enough of Manafort’s assets to more than pay the full cost.

You're welcome.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/07/10/trumps-golf-trips-could-cost-taxpayers-over-340-million/#3304b9c028aa
Trump’s Golf Trips Could Cost Taxpayers Over $340 ... (show quote)


Trump doesn't take a salary, so that pays for his golf. Obama played 306 rounds of golf over eight years and took his salary and he and his wife and mother-in-law on more taxpayer junkets than any U.S. president in history.

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Apr 29, 2020 11:20:45   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
The time and dollars spent on Trump's golf trips are pretty significant. It far exceeds Obama's tab. But taken by itself... it's not a really "huuuge deal."

We do pay for POTUS trave and entertainment.

It does get pretty silly when you add the context of Trump's consistent and chronic criticism of Obama's golf activities and Trump's repeated promises that if elected he would never go play...he would never leave the White House because he would be working too hard to ever go play golf.

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Apr 29, 2020 11:30:36   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
LWW wrote:
Trump's golf expenditures are ridiculous, as were Obama's and pretty much every POTUS following Truman.


Aw, Truman. The example of what a former president should be. Harry Truman drove himself home at the end of his term and paid for his own postage.

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Apr 29, 2020 12:09:42   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
mwalsh wrote:
The time and dollars spent on Trump's golf trips are pretty significant. It far exceeds Obama's tab. But taken by itself... it's not a really "huuuge deal."

We do pay for POTUS trave and entertainment.

It does get pretty silly when you add the context of Trump's consistent and chronic criticism of Obama's golf activities and Trump's repeated promises that if elected he would never go play...he would never leave the White House because he would be working too hard to ever go play golf.
The time and dollars spent on Trump's golf trips a... (show quote)


You seem to be forgetting that Trump has donated his entire salary of $400,000 to charity as has his daughter and son-in-law Jared. I don't recall Obama and Biden donating anything except what they could graft for themselves and family. How could Obama end up affording a 34 million dollar home on Martha's Vineyard, BTW?

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Apr 29, 2020 12:17:39   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Gee, at least he didn't have to fly to Hawaii and pay their inflated costs...


Or have the family dog flown in later on a second plane. No, not Michelle, the hairy dog.

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Apr 29, 2020 13:55:42   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
Frank T wrote:
Still can't get over the Obama administration?
TFB



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Apr 29, 2020 14:14:02   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Golf: "A good walk spoiled."

Disclosure: I used to play golf, shooting in the high seventies and scoring an ace at age 13.

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Apr 29, 2020 15:17:35   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
https://www.worldtribune.com/secret-service-finally-releases-obama-familys-travel-receipts-105-66-million/?fbclid=IwAR1nGjinnokDzbWwuxqXrrBZ6uJrjDShMV0fotd0RT0kAAgjgQS2rWw0cDQ


Does that include the total allocated costs of Air Force 1 and the secret service (pre trips and follow ups)?

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Apr 29, 2020 15:18:51   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Frank T wrote:
Whatever the figures are really doesn't matter. When Trump takes a golfing trip, the United States Government pays the Trump resort for its use along with other related expenditures, like meals for the Secret Service, golf carts, and so forth. Kim Jung Un must be very proud of the Orange Moron.


Exactly like they did for Obama and every president before him in the modern age.

See......fwankie IS trainable!

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