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Toning B&W images
Mar 23, 2020 11:40:22   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
I should say first of that I dislike sepia, here is a comparison of some of the tones that I use. Platinum is the one I use most often, it makes for much richer blacks and a slightly warmer image. I also favour the Silver Efex paper toner which is warmer.
I hope the differences show on the various monitors.

Straight BW in PhotoShop
Straight BW in PhotoShop...
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Platinum - My homebrew
Platinum - My homebrew...
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S Efex Paper Toner #6 @60%
S Efex Paper Toner #6 @60%...
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Sepia
Sepia...
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Mar 23, 2020 11:42:32   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Excellent demo, Graham! What does the home brew consist of, please? (Corona beer jokes notwithstanding )

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Mar 23, 2020 12:01:29   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Graham Smith wrote:
I should say first of that I dislike sepia, here is a comparison of some of the tones that I use. Platinum is the one I use most often, it makes for much richer blacks and a slightly warmer image. I also favour the Silver Efex paper toner which is warmer.
I hope the differences show on the various monitors.


That is a great comparison. The difference did show on my monitor. Subtle, but significant. Thanks for the ideas. I think it is time to expand my repertoire.
Erich

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Mar 23, 2020 12:02:23   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
I haven't done much experimenting with B&W toning but I have tried using split toning on B&W which (in my very unprofessional opinion) works well. Have you tried anything like that? (I'm referring to very subtle levels of tint - subtler than you would use for monochrome tints).

It seems to me that no matter how carefully you choose a monochrome tone it will always be flatter than what split toning can achieve, plus split toning can add a bit of colour contrast on top of the B&W contrast without the unwanted effects of pushing the B&W contrast (i.e. the luminosity contrast). Plus you can choose warm, cool or you can balance warm and cool.

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Mar 23, 2020 18:12:21   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
R.G. wrote:
I haven't done much experimenting with B&W toning but I have tried using split toning on B&W which (in my very unprofessional opinion) works well. Have you tried anything like that? (I'm referring to very subtle levels of tint - subtler than you would use for monochrome tints).

It seems to me that no matter how carefully you choose a monochrome tone it will always be flatter than what split toning can achieve, plus split toning can add a bit of colour contrast on top of the B&W contrast without the unwanted effects of pushing the B&W contrast (i.e. the luminosity contrast). Plus you can choose warm, cool or you can balance warm and cool.
I haven't done much experimenting with B&W ton... (show quote)


Yes, split toning is a good way to go. I use it; but I should use it more.
erich

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Mar 24, 2020 07:23:22   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
R.G. wrote:
I haven't done much experimenting with B&W toning but I have tried using split toning on B&W which (in my very unprofessional opinion) works well. Have you tried anything like that? (I'm referring to very subtle levels of tint - subtler than you would use for monochrome tints).

It seems to me that no matter how carefully you choose a monochrome tone it will always be flatter than what split toning can achieve, plus split toning can add a bit of colour contrast on top of the B&W contrast without the unwanted effects of pushing the B&W contrast (i.e. the luminosity contrast). Plus you can choose warm, cool or you can balance warm and cool.
I haven't done much experimenting with B&W ton... (show quote)


I have to admit, R.G. that I completely forgot to include split toning as my intention was to show that there are alternatives to the overused and abused sepia tint.

You are quite right about toning giving a more flat look to the image, sometimes this isn't a bad thing as the trend is to think that B&W must have a great deal of contrast, whereas, I think that a larger range of tones with good separation between them gives a more pleasing image. Of course a contrasty image is more suited to some pictures.

Split toning is very easy and infinitely variable in Silver Efex Pro

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Mar 24, 2020 07:23:42   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
ebrunner wrote:
Yes, split toning is a good way to go. I use it; but I should use it more.
erich



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Mar 24, 2020 07:27:44   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Excellent demo, Graham! What does the home brew consist of, please? (Corona beer jokes notwithstanding )


It was done with a PS action I concocted several years back and typically, I didn't note down the method

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Mar 24, 2020 08:20:31   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
Im all ears when you talk about black and white processing. I downloaded the first two, and went about turning the first one into the second one. A slight increase in contrast with curves, then a warming filter corrected in channels. A small shift of the histogram to the right followed by a slight clipping of the lights produced identical histograms, and images that I could not tell apart. Doing this is the only way I can understand. There is no question that the home brew results in an image with a lot more impact. A very interesting exercise for me Graham. Thanks for posting this.

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Mar 24, 2020 08:43:15   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
fergmark wrote:
Im all ears when you talk about black and white processing. I downloaded the first two, and went about turning the first one into the second one. A slight increase in contrast with curves, then a warming filter corrected in channels. A small shift of the histogram to the right followed by a slight clipping of the lights produced identical histograms, and images that I could not tell apart. Doing this is the only way I can understand. There is no question that the home brew results in an image with a lot more impact. A very interesting exercise for me Graham. Thanks for posting this.
Im all ears when you talk about black and white pr... (show quote)


Thanks Mark, I should also mention that ACR is a very good option for split toning.

EDIT: And don't to forget LightRoom.

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Mar 24, 2020 08:44:01   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
ebrunner wrote:
That is a great comparison. The difference did show on my monitor. Subtle, but significant. Thanks for the ideas. I think it is time to expand my repertoire.
Erich


Thanks, Erich.

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Mar 24, 2020 10:51:41   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Selenium is my favorite.

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Mar 24, 2020 12:05:13   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I've never liked sepia toning either. I did see one on this site that had such a light touch with it that it was OK. These are really nice, Graham, and really show the differences.

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Mar 24, 2020 14:56:20   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
I like your platinum effect best Graham, it seems to add depth. I’m also a fan of split toning and by the sound of it you’re well aware of it’s possibilities. Interesting post.

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