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Mar 12, 2020 12:06:15   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
In August, 2010, I purchased some Caterpillar stock for $69.42 per share. At one point it had reached a value of over $162 per share. At this point it is at $90.24. Although I'm still in the black with it I predict that by the end of this month its value will be in single digits - if that much.

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Mar 12, 2020 12:13:51   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
At which point, I'd purchase more of the stock.
--Bob
EdJ0307 wrote:
In August, 2010, I purchased some Caterpillar stock for $69.42 per share. At one point it had reached a value of over $162 per share. At this point it is at $90.24. Although I'm still in the black with it I predict that by the end of this month its value will be in single digits - if that much.

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Mar 12, 2020 12:19:56   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
In August, 2010, I purchased some Caterpillar stock for $69.42 per share. At one point it had reached a value of over $162 per share. At this point it is at $90.24. Although I'm still in the black with it I predict that by the end of this month its value will be in single digits - if that much.


As soon as it hits rock bottom, buy a ton of it. It will come back. Don't you worry. They will all come back.

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Mar 12, 2020 12:26:42   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
I purchase stocks for the Long Run ---- Not for short term gains ---
Caterpillar is a damn good well run Company !! --
A world leader in their field

Those are the only reasons I would trust it & continue to own it

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Mar 12, 2020 12:46:19   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
If you don't sell it you won't lose a penny! You have a good stock. You could be like me, I had a bundle of GM stock I purchased in the 1985 area. Got a nice little return each year until they went bankrupt. The Government bailed them out and they classified my stock dead. If I had just a little more, I could have used it to paper my home office! That is why I drive Toyota today!

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Mar 12, 2020 12:48:59   #
Ollieboy
 
rmalarz wrote:
At which point, I'd purchase more of the stock.
--Bob


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Mar 12, 2020 12:58:23   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
As soon as it hits rock bottom, buy a ton of it. It will come back. Don't you worry. They will all come back.


The trick is knowing when rock bottom is, and that is just pure luck if you get it right - no one can time the market. Anyone care to guess where the bottom of this market is? Sometimes they come back - not always. I speak as someone who lost a ton in the tech crash where $155 stocks (NetAPP for example) dropped to $3.54 and 20 years later has made in back to $37 today. When they say stocks are a long term investment, they mean really LONG. The NASDAQ was ~5,000 at the peak of the dot com bubble - it took over 15 years to get back to that level. Today, it’s at 7,400 after 20 years. Remember when GE was the blue chip, well managed stock to own?

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Mar 12, 2020 13:18:13   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Once upon a time...

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Mar 12, 2020 20:08:46   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
TriX wrote:
The trick is knowing when rock bottom is, and that is just pure luck if you get it right - no one can time the market. Anyone care to guess where the bottom of this market is? Sometimes they come back - not always. I speak as someone who lost a ton in the tech crash where $155 stocks (NetAPP for example) dropped to $3.54 and 20 years later has made in back to $37 today. When they say stocks are a long term investment, they mean really LONG. The NASDAQ was ~5,000 at the peak of the dot com bubble - it took over 15 years to get back to that level. Today, it’s at 7,400 after 20 years. Remember when GE was the blue chip, well managed stock to own?
The trick is knowing when rock bottom is, and that... (show quote)


I know all too well about the tech crash. I was working for a tech company. It went BK in 2001. It was the best job I ever had too. I was so sorry to see it go.

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Mar 12, 2020 20:29:58   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I know all too well about the tech crash. I was working for a tech company. It went BK in 2001. It was the best job I ever had too. I was so sorry to see it go.


It was brutal. We had one employee at my company commit suicide. He lost everything in the market, but owed the IRS $200,000 AMT. I’d be embarrassed to say how much I lost, but I was lying in the ER with a heart attack within a week. Learned my lesson - I don’t own one share any more and I sleep a lot better at night. Too many days sitting in front of the computer with my finger over the button to execute a sell watching it move. I made a lot of mistakes. Putting $ into a 401K is one thing, but actively buying/selling individual stocks is a different story. Some of the lessons I learned the hard way:

1) diversification doesn’t mean IBM, Apple, EMC, NetAPP, Veritas, CMGi...
2) by the time the average investor realizes the market is on a Bull run, the money has already been made by the pros - and you’re getting in just in time for the downturn
3) never invest with borrowed $ - can you say margin call?
4) no one can successfully “time” the market. The market often acts in a contrarian way - good news causes a drop, and obviously bad news causes a rise.
5) the market is all about fear and greed. An acquaintance who is a broker told me that many years ago. I didn’t believe him at the time - thought that was very pessimistic. I do now.
6) don’t expect your broker to advise what is best for you - instead it will often be what is best for him. Apologies in advance to those responsible professional brokers who read this. I am sure there are some of you, but I (unfortunately) didn’t encounter them. The majority of brokers are paid on commission, and they have every incentive to maximize that. Want to find out? Just suggest a no-load fund (which pays no commission) instead of the fund that he recommends, even though it has outperformed his recommended fund for the last ten years, and see what his response is.

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Mar 12, 2020 23:32:58   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
rmalarz wrote:
At which point, I'd purchase more of the stock.
--Bob

That's what I plan on doing when it gets to less than a dollar a share. The way the stock market is dropping like a rock it shouldn't take too long.

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Mar 13, 2020 07:16:22   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
All "losses" are on paper, unless you make them real by selling. I don't believe in timing the market. The steepest recoveries have been after the biggest market drops.

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Mar 13, 2020 09:07:09   #
cdayton
 
TriX wrote:
It was brutal. We had one employee at my company commit suicide. He lost everything in the market, but owed the IRS $200,000 AMT. I’d be embarrassed to say how much I lost, but I was lying in the ER with a heart attack within a week. Learned my lesson - I don’t own one share any more and I sleep a lot better at night. Too many days sitting in front of the computer with my finger over the button to execute a sell watching it move. I made a lot of mistakes. Putting $ into a 401K is one thing, but actively buying/selling individual stocks is a different story. Some of the lessons I learned the hard way:

1) diversification doesn’t mean IBM, Apple, EMC, NetAPP, Veritas, CMGi...
2) by the time the average investor realizes the market is on a Bull run, the money has already been made by the pros - and you’re getting in just in time for the downturn
3) never invest with borrowed $ - can you say margin call?
4) no one can successfully “time” the market. The market often acts in a contrarian way - good news causes a drop, and obviously bad news causes a rise.
5) the market is all about fear and greed. An acquaintance who is a broker told me that many years ago. I didn’t believe him at the time - thought that was very pessimistic. I do now.
6) don’t expect your broker to advise what is best for you - instead it will often be what is best for him. Apologies in advance to those responsible professional brokers who read this. I am sure there are some of you, but I (unfortunately) didn’t encounter them. The majority of brokers are paid on commission, and they have every incentive to maximize that. Want to find out? Just suggest a no-load fund (which pays no commission) instead of the fund that he recommends, even though it has outperformed his recommended fund for the last ten years, and see what his response is.
It was brutal. We had one employee at my company c... (show quote)

Well said. I use a discount investment firm (no broker), only buy dividend-paying stocks and almost never sell except to meet mandatory withdrawals from our IRA.

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Mar 13, 2020 09:10:57   #
wds0410 Loc: Nunya
 
yssirk123 wrote:
All "losses" are on paper, unless you make them real by selling. I don't believe in timing the market. The steepest recoveries have been after the biggest market drops.



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Mar 13, 2020 09:39:18   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
rmalarz wrote:
At which point, I'd purchase more of the stock.
--Bob



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