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Mar 1, 2020 14:32:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
A. T. wrote:
Well, I bought it for a couple of reasons, not that I need to justify the purchase to you or anyone else. Most purchases that are advertised on this forum are not a necessity, they were purchased because some of us have hobbies that would incorporate the use of a drone or an expensive DSLR. Not every person with a drone is, as you said, an annoying narcissist although I agree, they are out there and probably the cause of a number of the FAA restrictions.

You know, I've been a member of this forum not that long and the vast majority of the people in this forum are wonderful individuals who are ALWAYS willing to offer advise and help; however, there is always one that for whatever reason has a bug up his butt and that attitude is so prevalent in their messages. I hope I NEVER offend or come across as someone anxious to belittle or vent my own shortcomings and frustrations on any fellow Hedgehoger in this forum.

So, I wish you well but you need not respond any of posts in the future.
Well, I bought it for a couple of reasons, not tha... (show quote)


I respond with my thoughts. You have opinions and yours here offends me severely so do not respond either to any posts as well.

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Mar 1, 2020 14:34:28   #
A. T.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I respond with my thoughts. You have opinions and yours here offends me severely so do not respond either to any posts as well.


Deal.

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Mar 1, 2020 14:36:22   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
coralstengel wrote:
My drone is an integral part of my real estate photography business. I do have my FAA certification and fly responsibly.
Based on the comments above, I see a lack of first hand knowledge and biased opinions from people who have more than likely never flown a drone.
Yes, there are ignorant drone operators, just as there are ignorant photographers.


Finally an unbiased statement.

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Mar 1, 2020 14:40:40   #
A. T.
 
scooter1 wrote:
Finally an unbiased statement.


I agree totally, thanks for your response and comments.

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Mar 1, 2020 14:42:09   #
A. T.
 
A. T. wrote:
I agree totally, thanks for your response and comments.


I thought I made it clear that I intend on getting the FAA certification and I am a very responsible drone operator.

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Mar 1, 2020 14:45:57   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Architect1776 wrote:
First, I am surprised you have to ask.
R/C planes generally fly at designated areas, at designated events and require a modicum of skill.
Drones have video cameras thus are used to spy surreptitiously on others, they fly low and hover like an annoying fly, they have been all over the place buzzing homes, parks, public places, cruise ships, public functions, schools with children expecting privacy of image, government buildings, and just being a nuisance in general.
You do not see R.C planes doing any of this except on rare occasions to the extent it is newsworthy.
Finally it appears that a vast majority of drone operators are narcissists that could care less about being annoying to others as long as they fulfill their pleasure at others expense.
First, I am surprised you have to ask. br R/C plan... (show quote)



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Mar 1, 2020 15:13:54   #
Mongo Loc: Western New York
 
I have a similar drone, and admit discouragement over the increasing legislation, often encouraged by industry consortium.

When I was young we used a Cessna 182 to fly the Finger Lakes and some of the other lakes around New York, and shot pictures of cottages. We sold hundreds and it gave us a fun thing to do on the weekends. Since I had a commercial airplane rating, I went on and got an instructor's certificate. I have been using airplanes and helicopters for nearly 5 decades taking pictures. So I got a drone.

In addition to flying various full sized aircraft, and teaching in airplanes, I also got the Part 107 certification for drones the second day it became available. The training would be good for any serious drone pilot to take, particularly ones who will travel with their drone and want to fly it in places other than their back yard. Part 107 training only scratches the surface of what a serious drone user should know, but it is a good start.

I am and have been for 40 years, a volunteer with the FAA, to promote safety. For years my efforts were with people engaged in primarily non-commercial operations. About 7 years ago, I started also providing safety seminars on drone education. The FAA has had several significant violations by drone operators. Some seem petty, and there are quite a few which could have serious complications.

The driving force in the industry is that there are companies which want to do package delivery, mapping, agricultural operations, pipeline and powerline monitoring as well as governmental and public safety. These forces will work towards their goals, and the individuals who want to take aerial shots recreationally will continue to get squeezed.

Recently, I provided basic training to almost 20 mostly teen aged hobbyists. Then the rules changed again. Frustrating. But the rules changed when the automobile started becoming more ubiquitous in the early 1900's.

With regard to drone pilots...keep in mind that the FAA considers drones aircraft, and thus subject to their regulation. One should not interfere with a drone pilot while flying, even if you think he might be spying on your daughter. And don't go shooting drones down. The outcome may not be a favorable one. If one thinks someone is being a peeping Tom, report it to the local police. They are able to work with the FAA, and most states have suitable statutes against that type of activity.

If there are any drone or regulation oriented questions, I will do my best to answer PM on the topic. FWIW, I consider RC aircraft different from drones, but they are lumped together similar to the ways that large freight aircraft have similar regulations as large passenger aircraft.

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Mar 1, 2020 15:20:24   #
Mongo Loc: Western New York
 
A slightly different story...when vacationing last year, I took my drone, and saw that the resort we were at prohibited drone flying. I talked with the director of security, who is a photographer. I told him what I wanted to do, and why I thought I was legal and lawful, and why I did not think he could prevent me from doing so.

He had been interested in drones, and was about to buy one. So it was a good conversation. I did fly the drone at the resort and around the lake, and shot some pictures of cottages and estates at the lake. But I endeavored to do so in an unobtrusive manner.

The director of security told me after our initial conversation that I was welcome to fly there, and if there were issues, we agreed to address them, and exchanged cellphone numbers. There were no issues.

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Mar 1, 2020 16:28:44   #
scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
Finally, a voice of reason and responsibility. I was beginning to think I was reading a Facebook rant instead of a UHH photography forum.

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Mar 1, 2020 17:24:06   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't know about the law but if there is a drone hovering over my house I would want to shoot it down.


As long as it doesn't cause damage to the building or injury to me, I could care less. I feel the same about birds flying over my house.

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Mar 1, 2020 17:43:12   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rook2c4 wrote:
As long as it doesn't cause damage to the building or injury to me, I could care less. I feel the same about birds flying over my house.


Birds do not take photos of you in your privacy then paste them all over social media last I checked.

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Mar 1, 2020 17:51:50   #
A. T.
 
Mongo wrote:
I have a similar drone, and admit discouragement over the increasing legislation, often encouraged by industry consortium.

When I was young we used a Cessna 182 to fly the Finger Lakes and some of the other lakes around New York, and shot pictures of cottages. We sold hundreds and it gave us a fun thing to do on the weekends. Since I had a commercial airplane rating, I went on and got an instructor's certificate. I have been using airplanes and helicopters for nearly 5 decades taking pictures. So I got a drone.

In addition to flying various full sized aircraft, and teaching in airplanes, I also got the Part 107 certification for drones the second day it became available. The training would be good for any serious drone pilot to take, particularly ones who will travel with their drone and want to fly it in places other than their back yard. Part 107 training only scratches the surface of what a serious drone user should know, but it is a good start.

I am and have been for 40 years, a volunteer with the FAA, to promote safety. For years my efforts were with people engaged in primarily non-commercial operations. About 7 years ago, I started also providing safety seminars on drone education. The FAA has had several significant violations by drone operators. Some seem petty, and there are quite a few which could have serious complications.

The driving force in the industry is that there are companies which want to do package delivery, mapping, agricultural operations, pipeline and powerline monitoring as well as governmental and public safety. These forces will work towards their goals, and the individuals who want to take aerial shots recreationally will continue to get squeezed.

Recently, I provided basic training to almost 20 mostly teen aged hobbyists. Then the rules changed again. Frustrating. But the rules changed when the automobile started becoming more ubiquitous in the early 1900's.

With regard to drone pilots...keep in mind that the FAA considers drones aircraft, and thus subject to their regulation. One should not interfere with a drone pilot while flying, even if you think he might be spying on your daughter. And don't go shooting drones down. The outcome may not be a favorable one. If one thinks someone is being a peeping Tom, report it to the local police. They are able to work with the FAA, and most states have suitable statutes against that type of activity.

If there are any drone or regulation oriented questions, I will do my best to answer PM on the topic. FWIW, I consider RC aircraft different from drones, but they are lumped together similar to the ways that large freight aircraft have similar regulations as large passenger aircraft.
I have a similar drone, and admit discouragement o... (show quote)


Very well stated and thank you so very much for the information and your professionalism in which you presented the information. Now, I have never PM on this forum so I will need to do some homework on that.

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Mar 1, 2020 18:02:21   #
etaoin Loc: Wichita, KS
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't know about the law but if there is a drone hovering over my house I would want to shoot it down.
... and you would be committing a felony in doing so.

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Mar 1, 2020 18:20:26   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
etaoin wrote:
... and you would be committing a felony in doing so.


Unless you felt physically threatened.

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Mar 1, 2020 18:44:33   #
rjriggins11 Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
 
I build camera drones. That's part of the hobby for me, (although some of the drones are not just for hobby). I hate seeing it regulated into dust but it's not that inconvenient if really enjoy drone photography. And there are way's around some of the regulations like flying from within a state or federal park. As long as you are controlling the craft from outside the park, it's completely legal. Of course, it's difficult to get that across to the drone hawks.

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