A recent accomplishment of Trump's... ....was commuting Rod Blagojevitch's sentence of 14 years. Why have I not heard any lefties praising Trump for doing this? Can't they even find...

drainbamage

....was commuting Rod Blagojevitch's sentence of 14 years. Why have I not heard any lefties praising Trump for doing this? Can't they even find one little nice to say for Trump releasing this Democrat from prison?? Not even a teeny little applause???

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

drainbamage wrote:

....was commuting Rod Blagojevitch's sentence of 14 years. Why have I not heard any lefties praising Trump for doing this? Can't they even find one little nice to say for Trump releasing this Democrat from prison?? Not even a teeny little applause???

Why would anyone -- Democrat or Republican -- applaud a scumbag like Blagojevich being pardoned? The only reason Trump did this is to make his own corrupt behaviours -- which parallel those of Blagojevich -- look normal/acceptable. Trump is again lowering the bar on presidential normalcy and acceptability.

drainbamage

JohnFrim wrote:

Why would anyone -- Democrat or Republican -- applaud a scumbag like Blagojevich being pardoned? The only reason Trump did this is to make his own corrupt behaviours -- which parallel those of Blagojevich -- look normal/acceptable. Trump is again lowering the bar on presidential normalcy and acceptability.

So Blagojevich, your Democrat Governor, should have stayed in jail? Huh. At least you acknowledge that much...but lying to the FBI should be applied equally to all. How many can you think of who should also be in jail for 14 years for that same reason - both Democrat and Republican??? THAT is why Trump commuted his sentence...

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

drainbamage wrote:

So Blagojevich, your Democrat Governor, should have stayed in jail? Huh. At least you acknowledge that much...but lying to the FBI should be applied equally to all. How many can you think of who should also be in jail for 14 years for that same reason - both Democrat and Republican???

First of all he is not MY Governor. And Republican vs Democrat should have no relevance when it comes to the law. (Nor should being POTUS, for that matter.) As I heard the argument, Rod tried hard to fight back, and that tends to make prosecutors throw the book at the accused, and that is why the long sentence.

The other point is to question why Trump chose to pardon the people he did, when there are thousands in jail who should probably also be considered for pardons. The reason is Blagohevich's "crimes" are exactly what Trump was doing with Ukraine, and Trump needed to "normalize" such activity and take it off the "corruption" list.

drainbamage

JohnFrim wrote:

First of all he is not MY Governor. And Republican... (show quote)

Oh, my bad....he was "A" Governor. Of course he tried to fight back. That prosecutors threw the book at him (does that mean that they didn't like what he did in their opinion??) should not be part of any decision in a court of law to decide how long a sentence should be?

Trump, like Obama and every other President, has the power to commute, and pardon whoever they want. And you obviously, and to our humble citizens of OnePoliticalPlaza forum, are extremely thankful that you have such inside information as to what Trump was doing with Ukraine and how he needed to "normalize" "such activity"(what does 'such activity' mean?) to take it (what does "it" mean?) off the "corruption" list.

What is the "corruption" list???

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

drainbamage wrote:

Oh, my bad....he was "A" Governor. Of co... (show quote)

As I heard it, he was not cooperative (as in obstructive; sound familiar?) so there was no desire on the part of the prosecution to be lenient on him. Leniency is a consideration that can be removed if prosecutors feel that the accused does not deserve it.

What Trump was doing in Ukraine was quid pro quo (similar to bribery; sound familiar?), whether you want to believe it or not. Blagojevich was doing quid pro quo in selling off Obama's Senate seat.

So what we have is the hypocrite POTUS claiming to fight corruption while in the same breath pardoning a guy who did the same thing as Trump. So of course Trump wants that (bribery; obstruction) to be normalized.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

JohnFrim wrote:

As I heard it, he was not cooperative (as in obstr... (show quote)

So by your standard, shouldn't Joe Biden be in jail for threatening the Ukraine to help out his son? Obama, too, for secretly promising Putin that he will have more flexibility to help Russia after his re-election.

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

JohnFrim wrote:

Why would anyone -- Democrat or Republican -- applaud a scumbag like Blagojevich being pardoned? The only reason Trump did this is to make his own corrupt behaviours -- which parallel those of Blagojevich -- look normal/acceptable. Trump is again lowering the bar on presidential normalcy and acceptability.

Kanucks who know little tend to have different opinions than Americans do who are used to living with freedom and independent thought.

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

JohnFrim wrote:

First of all he is not MY Governor. And Republican... (show quote)

OMG.......spew your drivel in kanuckistan. What makes you think that YOU get to tell Americans how they should think and live???? It is none of your business who got pardoned or why. Get it?

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

JohnFrim wrote:

As I heard it, he was not cooperative (as in obstr... (show quote)

Did you ever wonder why the OBAMA AG had Rod arrested before the investigation was complete?

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Steven Seward wrote:

So by your standard, shouldn't Joe Biden be in jail for threatening the Ukraine to help out his son? Obama, too, for secretly promising Putin that he will have more flexibility to help Russia after his re-election.

Biden was acting on behalf of the US State Department. It was US policy that he was enforcing, with the support of the IMF, many of the US Allies, and even the Ukrainian parliament. In contrast, Trump was defying US policy (the money was approved by Congress, and the Pentagon had cleared Ukraine on the issue of cleaning up corruption) and asking for a personal favour to help him in the election. Biden also acted in public whereas Trump tried to hide his actions. So no, Biden should not be in jail.

Regarding Obama, where was the quid pro quo? And on that point, if it is ever proven that Obama did something wrong, then lock him up! I would not cry foul.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Steven Seward wrote:

So by your standard, shouldn't Joe Biden be in jail for threatening the Ukraine to help out his son? Obama, too, for secretly promising Putin that he will have more flexibility to help Russia after his re-election.

Steven,
You just couldn't help but jump the shark, could you?

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

JohnFrim wrote:

Biden was acting on behalf of the US State Departm... (show quote)

You do remember you are not a citizen or resident of the US and this is none of your business, correct? You don't get to cry foul, remember?

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Elaine2025 wrote:

You do remember you are not a citizen or resident of the US and this is none of your business, correct? You don't get to cry foul, remember?

Yes, my dear, I DO remember I am not a citizen or resident of the US.

But it IS my business, and I DO get to cry foul... remember? It's one of the those freedoms that Canadians have.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

JohnFrim wrote:

Yes, my dear, I DO remember I am not a citizen or resident of the US.

But it IS my business, and I DO get to cry foul... remember? It's one of the those freedoms that Canadians have.

Forgive the ignorant John. For some reason, the "Republican" on this site have decided they hate Canadians. They also hate Mexicans, Central Americans and 51% of the United States Citizens. Perhaps, they just hate all of North America. One would think they would move to a place more in line with their beliefs, say Iran, Russia, North Korea. All good choices if they want to be hateful little wretches like they are.