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Feb 17, 2020 14:00:59   #
Pytrouble
 
I have been shooting in RAW for several years and have recently been going through old folders on LR to delete pictures not worth keeping and uploading the keepers to a cloud account for backup. I came across a whole month's worth of pictures (back when I was still shooting JPEG) that are labeled "thumb" in the file name and are only .8 megapixels. I have no idea how this happened but am bummed because I had some pretty good shots in this group but can't do much with .8 mp. I checked the files on the hard drive and they are also "thumbs". Any idea how this happened? I don't think I would have changed any settings on the camera. I assume there is no way to retrieve the original size picture as the SD cards involved would have been reused many times since then. If anyone can explain how this happened, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, hoggers.

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Feb 17, 2020 14:29:45   #
klaus Loc: Guatemala City, Guatemala
 
You must have "fat-fingered" copying your files at some point to wind up with just thumbs.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:13:44   #
Pytrouble
 
klaus wrote:
You must have "fat-fingered" copying your files at some point to wind up with just thumbs.


Thanks for your response but not sure I understand what you mean. When I upload my pictures to the computer (Lightroom), I put the SD card directly into the computer and import to LR.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:21:46   #
Pytrouble
 
Just noticed something else. In LR on the right panel under "metadata status", it states "has been changed". No clue what that means either.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:28:45   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Those are not the real image files - those are thumbnails at vastly reduced resolution.
Unless you deleted them from you photo library the real images are somewhere but LR lost track of them when they were moved etc.
Use one of the full file names/numbers of one and do a search of all drives then note the location and they should be there, but as noted, not if you for some reason deleted them or did something like fail to move all files to a new drive so that all you have left is the LR "thumbnails" in the catalog.

Those pictures - ALL of them - are not in LR files, all LR has are locations of the files on your drive. Move a file or change the name/date whatever (metadata) without doing it through LR and LR can no longer find them, all LR has left are the thumbnails.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:42:36   #
Pytrouble
 
robertjerl wrote:
Those are not the real image files - those are thumbnails at vastly reduced resolution.
Unless you deleted them from you photo library the real images are somewhere but LR lost track of them when they were moved etc.
Use one of the full file names/numbers of one and do a search of all drives then note the location and they should be there, but as noted, not if you for some reason deleted them or did something like fail to move all files to a new drive so that all you have left is the LR "thumbnails" in the catalog.

Those pictures - ALL of them - are not in LR files, all LR has are locations of the files on your drive. Move a file or change the name/date whatever (metadata) without doing it through LR and LR can no longer find them, all LR has left are the thumbnails.
Those are not the real image files - those are thu... (show quote)


Thank you for your explanation. I'll do a search and, hopefully, can find the original images.

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Feb 17, 2020 16:35:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
From"computerhope":
"The hidden file thumbs. db is a database file containing a small JPEG representing each of the thumbnails in a folder. Thumbs. db files are required by Windows to display a thumbnail for each icon. They are created automatically in the same directory as the thumbnails being viewed."

It can be deleted, but will be created again when Windows needs it.

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Feb 17, 2020 16:40:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Pytrouble wrote:
Thank you for your explanation. I'll do a search and, hopefully, can find the original images.


The original images should be in the directory that contains the thumbs file. Unless you moved them.

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Feb 17, 2020 16:48:49   #
Pytrouble
 
Longshadow wrote:
From"computerhope":
"The hidden file thumbs. db is a database file containing a small JPEG representing each of the thumbnails in a folder. Thumbs. db files are required by Windows to display a thumbnail for each icon. They are created automatically in the same directory as the thumbnails being viewed."

It can be deleted, but will be created again when Windows needs it.


I am on a Mac. Probably should have said.

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Feb 17, 2020 17:04:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Pytrouble wrote:
I am on a Mac. Probably should have said.


Would have helped........

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Feb 18, 2020 07:42:01   #
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Feb 18, 2020 13:13:31   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Pytrouble wrote:
Thank you for your explanation. I'll do a search and, hopefully, can find the original images.


Ahhhh! It has been so long since I used it but LR has a built in function to find lost photos. I seem to remember using it about three times - worked twice, didn't once - and it does find a lot of stuff I wasn't looking for.

In Library mode, then under "Library" in upper left in the drop down menu you will find a line that says "Find all missing photos". I read a quick explanation that says it searches the drives for images that match the file names of any orphaned thumbnails. But as I said it also "found" a lot of other stuff - like images in other apps etc.

I am feeling weird today so I think I will run it just to see what pops up - but first I will create a Restore Point - just in case my old buddy Murphy drops by.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:42:49   #
Pytrouble
 
robertjerl wrote:
Ahhhh! It has been so long since I used it but LR has a built in function to find lost photos. I seem to remember using it about three times - worked twice, didn't once - and it does find a lot of stuff I wasn't looking for.

In Library mode, then under "Library" in upper left in the drop down menu you will find a line that says "Find all missing photos". I read a quick explanation that says it searches the drives for images that match the file names of any orphaned thumbnails. But as I said it also "found" a lot of other stuff - like images in other apps etc.

I am feeling weird today so I think I will run it just to see what pops up - but first I will create a Restore Point - just in case my old buddy Murphy drops by.
Ahhhh! It has been so long since I used it but LR... (show quote)


Thank you. Will definitely check it out. When I did a computer search for just one of the “thumbs”, it only came up with the thumb file.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:53:15   #
ButchS Loc: Spokane, WA
 
The thumbs directory is where Windows keeps the thumbnails that it uses as icons for your photo directories. The fact that the name start with a dot indicates they are system files. Files you spay the system.

You would normally have a thumbs directory in every directory where you have photos.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:55:11   #
ButchS Loc: Spokane, WA
 
Pytrouble wrote:
I am on a Mac. Probably should have said.


If you are on a Mac, then at some point in time the disk you are viewing was used on a Windows system.

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