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Feb 13, 2020 17:37:30   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
Having been to a couple of dozen different school gymnasiums over the past basketball season, I have found a compelling need to be able to read the Kelvin (for lack of a better understanding) scale of the available light source. I went online and purchased a Sekonic L-188 light meter only to be totally confused by its capability in our digital world. With that said, can anyone recommend a "light meter" so I won't have to use the Auto setting for white balance? Cost is a factor so if there are really good ones that cost >$50, I cannot buy one until later this year. Thanks in advance.

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Feb 13, 2020 17:45:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Sounds like you want a color temperature meter, not a light meter.
For what it's worth. - GPS STATUS app for my Android phone measures color temp in degrees Kelvin and light intensity in LUX. Might require calibration...

or

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1390250-REG/sekonic_401_305_l_308x_u_flashmate_light_meter.html

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Feb 13, 2020 17:46:38   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Dziadzi wrote:
Having been to a couple of dozen different school gymnasiums over the past basketball season, I have found a compelling need to be able to read the Kelvin (for lack of a better understanding) scale of the available light source. I went online and purchased a Sekonic L-188 light meter only to be totally confused by its capability in our digital world. With that said, can anyone recommend a "light meter" so I won't have to use the Auto setting for white balance? Cost is a factor so if there are really good ones that cost >$50, I cannot buy one until later this year. Thanks in advance.
Having been to a couple of dozen different school ... (show quote)


https://www.ebay.com/itm/MINOLTA-COLOR-METER-II-Photographic-Temperature-Meter-1433/193040655950?epid=1924600583&hash=item2cf21ea64e:g:SNYAAOSwzLZdTmxA

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Feb 13, 2020 17:53:21   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
Dziadzi wrote:
Having been to a couple of dozen different school gymnasiums over the past basketball season, I have found a compelling need to be able to read the Kelvin (for lack of a better understanding) scale of the available light source. I went online and purchased a Sekonic L-188 light meter only to be totally confused by its capability in our digital world. With that said, can anyone recommend a "light meter" so I won't have to use the Auto setting for white balance? Cost is a factor so if there are really good ones that cost >$50, I cannot buy one until later this year. Thanks in advance.
Having been to a couple of dozen different school ... (show quote)


You don't need a color temp meter. Just set a custom WB on the camera before you start shooting or if you're shooting raw then just shoot an appropriate WB target to use in PP -- white Styrofoam coffee cup works great.

Joe

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Feb 13, 2020 18:18:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ysarex wrote:
You don't need a color temp meter. Just set a custom WB on the camera before you start shooting or if you're shooting raw then just shoot an appropriate WB target to use in PP -- white Styrofoam coffee cup works great.

Joe


Or test shots.
Since the only time the color temp would change is if there is daylight/not daylight coming through any windows in the gym, once you figure the color temp for a gym, you can note it for next time?

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Feb 13, 2020 18:27:08   #
drmike99 Loc: Fairfield Connecticut
 
iPhone app POCKET LIGHTMETER does that and much more and it’s free.

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Feb 13, 2020 18:36:39   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
An alternate approach would be to use an Expodisc or the like:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1008986-REG/expoimaging_expod2_77_expodisc_2_0_77mm_white.html

You set the custom white balance in the camera before taking shots by putting the filter on the lens, pointing it directly at the light source and snapping the shutter (once you put the camera into its "set custom balance" mode - check your manual on that part)

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Feb 13, 2020 18:38:38   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
drmike99 wrote:
iPhone app POCKET LIGHTMETER does that and much more and it’s free.


Apparently not. It seems to be a light meter only according to the specs.

Joe

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Feb 13, 2020 18:50:28   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
drmike99 wrote:
iPhone app POCKET LIGHTMETER does that and much more and it’s free.


GREAT!, but I have Android!

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Feb 13, 2020 19:27:33   #
BebuLamar
 
You can get the Sekonic C7000 or the Konica Minolta CL-200A. They are both very expensive and accurate BUT (a big but) you may not get the right color due to your own camera color temp setting isn't very accurate.

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Feb 13, 2020 19:32:58   #
drmike99 Loc: Fairfield Connecticut
 
Ysarex wrote:
Apparently not. It seems to be a light meter only according to the specs.

Joe


Well you can read the specs but here’s a screenshot showing color balance data.


(Download)

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Feb 13, 2020 19:42:14   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
drmike99 wrote:
Well you can read the specs but here’s a screenshot showing color balance data.


Well it does show a color temp value. I don't see a tint value which is also essential. Does it toggle the tint value with the temp value? Here's a link to a real color temperature meter: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436631-REG/sekonic_401_800_c_800_spectomaster_meter.html

The OP would be much better off setting a WB on the camera.

Joe

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Feb 13, 2020 19:47:40   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ysarex wrote:
Well it does show a color temp value. I don't see a tint value which is also essential. Does it toggle the tint value with the temp value? Here's a link to a real color temperature meter: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436631-REG/sekonic_401_800_c_800_spectomaster_meter.html

The OP would be much better off setting a WB on the camera.

Joe


I'll just run right out and get three, one for each camera bag.

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Feb 13, 2020 19:55:22   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Dziadzi wrote:
Having been to a couple of dozen different school gymnasiums over the past basketball season, I have found a compelling need to be able to read the Kelvin (for lack of a better understanding) scale of the available light source. I went online and purchased a Sekonic L-188 light meter only to be totally confused by its capability in our digital world. With that said, can anyone recommend a "light meter" so I won't have to use the Auto setting for white balance? Cost is a factor so if there are really good ones that cost >$50, I cannot buy one until later this year. Thanks in advance.
Having been to a couple of dozen different school ... (show quote)


You are having a hard time with the color due to the lights. You'll need to set the Kelvin to the correct temperature and you may have a problem with the lights flickering (you can't see it but the camera can. Research shooting in the gym on YouTube. They will have videos on the topic.

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Feb 13, 2020 20:06:30   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
drmike99 wrote:
Well you can read the specs but here’s a screenshot showing color balance data.


Taking a closer look at that display -- what the bleepin bleep is EV400?

Joe

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