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Feb 7, 2020 09:20:56   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
LOL telling me there is a video that everyone saw is not evidence, I saw the video and it's hard to determine if Trump actually and intentionally refused to shake Pelosi's hand. It was so quick that Trump may have not even noticed she extended her hand for about 1 second. So how did you come to the conclusion that Trump intentionally refused to shake her hand? I came to the conclusion that it's inconclusive, that's because I am honest about it and you are not.


Rachel told him.

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Feb 7, 2020 09:21:30   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
FRENCHY wrote:
You and him will be good partners. Go fishing ...with no hooks.



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Feb 7, 2020 09:24:03   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
LOL telling me there is a video that everyone saw is not evidence, I saw the video and it's hard to determine if Trump actually and intentionally refused to shake Pelosi's hand. It was so quick that Trump may have not even noticed she extended her hand for about 1 second. So how did you come to the conclusion that Trump intentionally refused to shake her hand? I came to the conclusion that it's inconclusive, that's because I am honest about it and you are not.

Sometimes when there is any doubt or ambiguity the simplest explanation is probably the correct one. Trump not shaking Pelosi's hand is totally consistent with his boorish behaviour that has been consistent with his persona forever. In the end this all comes down to what we want to believe, and I choose to believe he saw her extended hand and intentionally refused it. Your opinion may differ.

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Feb 7, 2020 10:44:22   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"There has been a renaissance in the study of how the backgrounds of individual leaders affect foreign policy outcomes.

Donald Trump's presidency highlights the limits of this approach.

Trump's psychology is so unique, and so akin to that of a small child, that studying his background alone is insufficient to explain his decision-making.

The evidence for this characterization of Trump's leadership comes not from his political opponents, but his allies, staffers and subordinates. Trump's lack of impulse control, short attention span and frequent temper tantrums have all undercut his effectiveness as president as compared to his predecessors.

Nonetheless, the 45th president helps to clarify ongoing debates in American politics about the relative strength of the presidency as an institution.

In particular, the powers of the presidency have become so enhanced that even comparatively weak and inexperienced leaders can execute dramatic policy shifts. "



"Even a cursory examination of the Trump literature reveals a peculiarity unique to this president: almost all his biographers, even his acolytes, describe him in terms one would use for a toddler.

He offers the greatest example of pervasive developmental delay in American political history. Trump's individual psychology is sufficiently unique to require a highly focused analysis of his immature psychological traits

https://academic.oup.com/ia/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ia/iiaa009/5722298
"There has been a renaissance in the study of... (show quote)


So your saying the democrats are being owned by a kid?

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Feb 7, 2020 11:23:17   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Even if Trump's behaviour was rude, a gracious, as opposed to a childlike anger response was still inaoroptiate. Sorta like a child like temper tantrum. A "Lady" would not behave that way.. A vindictive bitch would.All she would have to do, is nothing. But she made the decision to act like the spoiled child. that she is.

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Feb 7, 2020 11:54:12   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"There has been a renaissance in the study of how the backgrounds of individual leaders affect foreign policy outcomes.

Donald Trump's presidency highlights the limits of this approach.

Trump's psychology is so unique, and so akin to that of a small child, that studying his background alone is insufficient to explain his decision-making.

The evidence for this characterization of Trump's leadership comes not from his political opponents, but his allies, staffers and subordinates. Trump's lack of impulse control, short attention span and frequent temper tantrums have all undercut his effectiveness as president as compared to his predecessors.

Nonetheless, the 45th president helps to clarify ongoing debates in American politics about the relative strength of the presidency as an institution.

In particular, the powers of the presidency have become so enhanced that even comparatively weak and inexperienced leaders can execute dramatic policy shifts. "



"Even a cursory examination of the Trump literature reveals a peculiarity unique to this president: almost all his biographers, even his acolytes, describe him in terms one would use for a toddler.

He offers the greatest example of pervasive developmental delay in American political history. Trump's individual psychology is sufficiently unique to require a highly focused analysis of his immature psychological traits

https://academic.oup.com/ia/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ia/iiaa009/5722298
"There has been a renaissance in the study of... (show quote)


BW like in BigWahoo or BUTT WIPE. Whatever. What is it that the little people hate Trump? Is it because he is rich, good looking, straight, wants
what is good for America, wants to undo Obama's total F*** ups or maybe it is that you are blinded by having your fat lips suctioned cup to
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelosi's ass?

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Feb 7, 2020 11:55:41   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
boberic wrote:
Even if Trump's behaviour was rude, a gracious, as opposed to a childlike anger response was still inaoroptiate. Sorta like a child like temper tantrum. A "Lady" would not behave that way.. A vindictive bitch would.All she would have to do, is nothing. But she made the decision to act like the spoiled child. that she is.


See is just a spiteful left wing DemoKKKrap ho.

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Feb 7, 2020 12:05:05   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
JohnFrim wrote:
... or the rude manner in which Trump refused a handshake.

You, and your opinion, are not relevant.

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Feb 7, 2020 12:05:58   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
JohnFrim wrote:
The proper sequence would have been to shake the lady's hand first, and then the gentleman's. He snubbed Pelosi's offer of a handshake just as he snubbed Merkel's handshake offer on her first visit to the WH. Trump is a boor, that's all.

And if you check the video records you will see that her introduction of POTUS was AFTER the handshake refusal, not before.

You, and your opinion, are not relevant.

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Feb 7, 2020 12:06:43   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Umm... it's in the multiple videos of the SOTU speech that are on the internet? And if you don't want to take my word for it, perhaps you can get your fellow Trumpeters, who are arguing the point of whether Trump did it intentionally, to explain the debate to you.

You, and your opinion, are not relevant.

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Feb 7, 2020 12:07:43   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Sometimes when there is any doubt or ambiguity the simplest explanation is probably the correct one. Trump not shaking Pelosi's hand is totally consistent with his boorish behaviour that has been consistent with his persona forever. In the end this all comes down to what we want to believe, and I choose to believe he saw her extended hand and intentionally refused it. Your opinion may differ.

You, and your opinion, are not relevant.

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Feb 7, 2020 12:50:53   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
slocumeddie wrote:
You, and your opinion, are not relevant.



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Feb 7, 2020 12:57:01   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
slocumeddie wrote:
You, and your opinion, are not relevant.


Your opinion of my opinion is irrelevant. But I will only say it once. A word to the wise is sufficient.

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Feb 7, 2020 12:58:36   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Your opinion of my opinion is irrelevant. But I will only say it once. A word to the wise is sufficient.


wise?? leaves you out

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Feb 7, 2020 13:03:26   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
JohnFrim wrote:
The proper sequence would have been to shake the lady's hand first, and then the gentleman's. He snubbed Pelosi's offer of a handshake just as he snubbed Merkel's handshake offer on her first visit to the WH. Trump is a boor, that's all.

And if you check the video records you will see that her introduction of POTUS was AFTER the handshake refusal, not before.

The proper sequewould have been not to attempt a coup.

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