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Feb 5, 2020 11:26:37   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
"The U.S. Department of Labor had two announcements in the past month that showed job growth under President Trump is weaker than expected. On August 21 it published a preliminary estimate of its upcoming annual revision, which decreased its original job growth projection by 501,000 from April 2018 to March 2019.

The second was the monthly job report released on September 6 showing that only 130,000 jobs were created with June and July’s results decreasing by 15,000 and 5,000, respectively, for a net job gain of 110,000. The total was also helped by the Federal government hiring 25,000 people for the upcoming census, making net jobs added about 85,000.

Trump’s job growth falls short of Obama’s last three years

The Labor Department’s revised job count lowered the April 2018 to March 2019 by 501,000. Assuming that the almost 42,000 per month lower number is spread evenly across the 12 months, Trump’s 2018 total of 2.303 million jobs falls short of Obama’s 2014 to 2016 results and essentially matches his 2.302 million for 2013. And 2018 was helped by Trump’s tax cut sugar high."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/09/20/trump-has-created-15-million-fewer-jobs-than-obama/#758a5c5527ce

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Feb 5, 2020 11:33:32   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Neither of them created jobs...

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Feb 5, 2020 12:24:01   #
btbg
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"The U.S. Department of Labor had two announcements in the past month that showed job growth under President Trump is weaker than expected. On August 21 it published a preliminary estimate of its upcoming annual revision, which decreased its original job growth projection by 501,000 from April 2018 to March 2019.

The second was the monthly job report released on September 6 showing that only 130,000 jobs were created with June and July’s results decreasing by 15,000 and 5,000, respectively, for a net job gain of 110,000. The total was also helped by the Federal government hiring 25,000 people for the upcoming census, making net jobs added about 85,000.

Trump’s job growth falls short of Obama’s last three years

The Labor Department’s revised job count lowered the April 2018 to March 2019 by 501,000. Assuming that the almost 42,000 per month lower number is spread evenly across the 12 months, Trump’s 2018 total of 2.303 million jobs falls short of Obama’s 2014 to 2016 results and essentially matches his 2.302 million for 2013. And 2018 was helped by Trump’s tax cut sugar high."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/09/20/trump-has-created-15-million-fewer-jobs-than-obama/#758a5c 527ce
"The U.S. Department of Labor had two announc... (show quote)


There's nobody left to hire. Unemployment is the lowest in modern history.

We have been trying to hire for months and can't find anyone and we are not alone.

Unemployment in our town has been at or above 10 percent since Clinton policies shut down the sawmills in the 1980s. It was still over 10 percent when Trump took office. It is now under 3.6 percent.

Don't care how you try to distort stats we can see the difference clearly.

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Feb 5, 2020 12:33:51   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
btbg wrote:
There's nobody left to hire. Unemployment is the lowest in modern history.

We have been trying to hire for months and can't find anyone and we are not alone.

Unemployment in our town has been at or above 10 percent since Clinton policies shut down the sawmills in the 1980s. It was still over 10 percent when Trump took office. It is now under 3.6 percent.

Don't care how you try to distort stats we can see the difference clearly.


From 2008:

"The government says employers axed 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years, and the unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent.

The loss of 533,000 nonfarm payroll jobs shows the crucial employment market deteriorating at an alarmingly rapid clip, and handed Americans some more grim news right before the holidays.

Following the Labor Department's release of November's job figures, President George W. Bush publicly acknowledged for the first time Friday the depths that the U.S. economy had reached by using the "R" word: "


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biggest-monthly-job-loss-in-34-years/

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Feb 5, 2020 12:43:09   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
btbg wrote:
There's nobody left to hire. Unemployment is the lowest in modern history.

We have been trying to hire for months and can't find anyone and we are not alone.

Unemployment in our town has been at or above 10 percent since Clinton policies shut down the sawmills in the 1980s. It was still over 10 percent when Trump took office. It is now under 3.6 percent.

Don't care how you try to distort stats we can see the difference clearly.


From the Bureau of Labor


https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/10/30/two-charts-show-trumps-job-gains-are-just-a-continuation-from-obamas-presidency/#eef52ec1af3f



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Feb 5, 2020 14:09:41   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"The U.S. Department of Labor had two announcements in the past month that showed job growth under President Trump is weaker than expected. On August 21 it published a preliminary estimate of its upcoming annual revision, which decreased its original job growth projection by 501,000 from April 2018 to March 2019.

The second was the monthly job report released on September 6 showing that only 130,000 jobs were created with June and July’s results decreasing by 15,000 and 5,000, respectively, for a net job gain of 110,000. The total was also helped by the Federal government hiring 25,000 people for the upcoming census, making net jobs added about 85,000.

Trump’s job growth falls short of Obama’s last three years

The Labor Department’s revised job count lowered the April 2018 to March 2019 by 501,000. Assuming that the almost 42,000 per month lower number is spread evenly across the 12 months, Trump’s 2018 total of 2.303 million jobs falls short of Obama’s 2014 to 2016 results and essentially matches his 2.302 million for 2013. And 2018 was helped by Trump’s tax cut sugar high."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/09/20/trump-has-created-15-million-fewer-jobs-than-obama/#758a5c5527ce
"The U.S. Department of Labor had two announc... (show quote)


So 2009-2012 didn’t actually happen?

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Feb 5, 2020 14:18:06   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
LWW wrote:
So 2009-2012 didn’t actually happen?


Look at the chart.

Let me help you; Bush led us into a Recession and Obama led us out.

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Feb 5, 2020 14:28:58   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
BigWahoo wrote:
Look at the chart.

Let me help you; Bush led us into a Recession and Obama led us out.


Actually it was a D congress there that did it.

Your own chart proves it.

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Feb 5, 2020 14:46:05   #
EyeSawYou
 
mwalsh wrote:
Neither of them created jobs...


Actually Trump has created somewhere near 33,000 private sector jobs. But I do agree with you that no sitting President actually creates any private sector jobs.

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Feb 5, 2020 14:53:05   #
EyeSawYou
 


The Democrats had full control of both houses of Congress when the crash occurred. The Republicans had full control of both houses of Congress in 2014 but the house in 2010. So I guess the Democrat house and senate lead us into the 2008 recession right?

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Feb 5, 2020 16:06:10   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
The Democrats had full control of both houses of Congress when the crash occurred. The Republicans had full control of both houses of Congress in 2014 but the house in 2010. So I guess the Democrat house and senate lead us into the 2008 recession right?


That’s exactly what he’s claiming.

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Feb 5, 2020 16:20:44   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"The U.S. Department of Labor had two announcements in the past month that showed job growth under President Trump is weaker than expected. On August 21 it published a preliminary estimate of its upcoming annual revision, which decreased its original job growth projection by 501,000 from April 2018 to March 2019.

The second was the monthly job report released on September 6 showing that only 130,000 jobs were created with June and July’s results decreasing by 15,000 and 5,000, respectively, for a net job gain of 110,000. The total was also helped by the Federal government hiring 25,000 people for the upcoming census, making net jobs added about 85,000.

Trump’s job growth falls short of Obama’s last three years

The Labor Department’s revised job count lowered the April 2018 to March 2019 by 501,000. Assuming that the almost 42,000 per month lower number is spread evenly across the 12 months, Trump’s 2018 total of 2.303 million jobs falls short of Obama’s 2014 to 2016 results and essentially matches his 2.302 million for 2013. And 2018 was helped by Trump’s tax cut sugar high."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/09/20/trump-has-created-15-million-fewer-jobs-than-obama/#758a5c5527ce
"The U.S. Department of Labor had two announc... (show quote)


When unemployment falls below 5% it gets hard to fill openings. The reality is that at that level, nearly every qualified candidate that wants a job has one. What is left is the people that aren't qualified. We are at or about 3.5% which means the economy is sooo good even the slackasses and dregs are working.

When unemployment is over 10% it means there is a huge number of qualified candidates for almost every opening and intense competition to fill them.

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Feb 5, 2020 16:33:45   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
hondo812 wrote:
When unemployment falls below 5% it gets hard to fill openings. The reality is that at that level, nearly every qualified candidate that wants a job has one. What is left is the people that aren't qualified. We are at or about 3.5% which means the economy is sooo good even the slackasses and dregs are working.

When unemployment is over 10% it means there is a huge number of qualified candidates for almost every opening and intense competition to fill them.


WE all know those employment figures are false just ask The Imperial Leader:


Let's take a walk down memory lane and remember a few times Trump trashed the jobs numbers as “fake,” incomplete or something other than the right way to determine whether America had been made “great again.”

Sep. 7, 2012

“Unemployment rate only dropped because more people are out of labor force & have stopped looking for work. Not a real recovery, phony numbers”

Oct. 19, 2012
"7.8% unemployment number is a complete fraud as evidenced by the jobless claims number released yesterday. Real unemployment is at least 15%”

Aug. 11, 2013
“We can rev up this economy like it should be, not with false numbers like 7.4 percent unemployment. But with real numbers.”

May 31, 2014
“Unemployment is a totally phony number.”

June 16, 2015
“Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it.”

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Aug. 11, 2015
“Then you hear there's a 5.4 percent unemployment. It's really — if you add it up, it's probably 40 percent if you think about it.”

Aug. 30, 2015
“They show those phony statistics where we are 5.4 percent unemployment. The real number, I saw a number that could be 42 percent, believe it or not.”

Sept. 28, 2015
“I hear 5.3 percent unemployment, that is the biggest joke there is in this country. That number is so false.”

Sept. 29, 2015
“The number is not reflective. I have seen numbers of 24 percent. I saw a number of 42 percent unemployment. … That number is so false.”

Oct. 9, 2015
“They say 5.3 percent employment. The number is probably 32 percent.”

Oct. 11, 2015
“Nobody has jobs. … It is not a real economy. It is a phony set of numbers. They cooked the books.”

Jan. 17, 2016
“Look again, you hear these phony jobs numbers? People that gave up looking for jobs? They are considered employed.”

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Feb 5, 2020 21:05:57   #
btbg
 
BigWahoo wrote:
From 2008:

"The government says employers axed 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years, and the unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent.

The loss of 533,000 nonfarm payroll jobs shows the crucial employment market deteriorating at an alarmingly rapid clip, and handed Americans some more grim news right before the holidays.

Following the Labor Department's release of November's job figures, President George W. Bush publicly acknowledged for the first time Friday the depths that the U.S. economy had reached by using the "R" word: "


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biggest-monthly-job-loss-in-34-years/
From 2008: br br "The government says employ... (show quote)

What does this have to do with Trump. I never voted for Bush, did not like the man and did not support him. Unemployment in our county went up to 13 percent under Bush. It got all the way down to 11 under Obama and is now 3.6 percent under Trump.

So, which one has helped us more? Doh, that would be Trump.

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Feb 5, 2020 21:16:49   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
btbg wrote:
What does this have to do with Trump. I never voted for Bush, did not like the man and did not support him. Unemployment in our county went up to 13 percent under Bush. It got all the way down to 11 under Obama and is now 3.6 percent under Trump.

So, which one has helped us more? Doh, that would be Trump.


Better check your numbers.

Rate was 4.7% at the end of Obama's tenure.

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